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West Gallery Forum
This Forum has been set up for members of the West Gallery Music Association and any others who are interested in the music, the literature (starting with Thomas Hardy!) and the social life and times during which west gallery musicians played and sang in the galleries - usually at the west end - of our country churches. It is hoped that in time this may become the forum for debate on scholarly and not-so-scholarly matters. Please use this space wisely, however, and within the accepted bounds required for such a discussion group.
Click here to receive daily updates and notification of replies. Glass Harmonica in church Anonymous, Sat Apr 19 7:13AM Would Benjamin Franklin invention of the glass harmonica have been used in church services ? If so, what pieces of music would it have been ???
new music? Thurlow Weed, Sat May 3 2:34PM I'm an active shape-note singer, and hymn-tune composer in the Lancaster, Ohio, USA and also have a great interest in WGM, which shares common roots. Shape-note tunes continue to be composed to this day in a style unchanged in well over 200 years. I'm curious if there are any new pieces of WGM music being composed... more Morning Service The Rev. Peter Robinson, Mon Apr 7 8:14AM I am minister of a small Anglican/Episcopal parish in Arizona which has a tradition of using historic liturgies. We general backdate our liturgical practice to either 1893 or 1864, but this year we want to reflect the musical customs of c.1800. How much of the service (Mattins, Litany and Ante-Communion) would have... more
Anne Bronte was fond of Milford David Welch, Wed Mar 12 11:42AM I have just made another chance find of the tune called Milford in Higher Walton. It`s in a manuscript book written out by Anne Bronte in 1843-1844 when she was teaching at Thorpe Green. She named it Celestial Concerts. This manuscript book was reproduced in 1980, and comments on its musical contents and context... more St. Werburgh David Welch, Wed Feb 20 2:10PM Several weeks ago I posted a message seeking information on this tune and Milford. I have now had another look at the Higher Walton Handbell Ringers` music books of c. 1900, and have recognised St Werburgh as the tune often sung to "Lead us heavenly Father". Hence I found that in HTI St Werburgh is 11631a, believed... more Curly Hark - Newton's Sue Taylor-Peach, Mon Feb 11 7:33AM This is as it is listed on the CD Sue
Can anyone help? Sue Taylor-Peach, Sun Feb 3 9:39PM Can anyone help me to source sheet music for 'Curly Hark - Newton's' as sung by Coope, Boyes and Simpson on their CD 'Voices at the Door'? Thanks, Sue
Milford CM David Welch, Mon Dec 24 9:38PM Can anyone tell me if Milford is a published tune for While Shepherds. It`s not in HTI, but seems in WG style with repeats; possibly mid C19. We`ve been working through handbell music belonging to the Higher Walton, nr Preston team, which was written out c. 1900. I think the first line is 13323432 in HTI notation. ... more
Christmas Hymn Tony Singleton, Sun Jan 20 5:40PM Thanks David and Tim for your responses. It would appear then that well before 1800, a piece of music called the "Christmas Hymn", found in a ms book without underlay, or reported as being sung by a choir in a church, could be any of the three possible texts, not just WSW. "Hark the herald" is quite a different... more
Keith Rogers Edwin Macadam, Mon Jan 21 12:23PM Doug Yeo, a life-long friend of Keith Rogers, sent this message round earlier this morning to members of the Serpent list. If anyone would like to send a personal message to his wife, Kathryn, I have her address, likewise I will pass on any information about the funeral arrangements, if asked to do so off line. = =... more Christmas Hymn Tony Singleton, Wed Jan 16 1:54PM My 1857 Church Service book includes 3 Hymns for Christmas Day: WSW, "High let us swell" (Dodderidge) for morning service, and "Hark the Herald Angels" (the 8-line verse with chorus version adapted from Wesley) for evening service. Does anyone know when the latter two first appeared in the Anglican prayer book - was... more
Request - West Gallery article, anyone? Penelope Lister, Sun Jan 13 11:41AM Hello there, Thanks to Tony for mentioning us here. I'm a descendant of one of the Stillingfleet Church Singers and my father was an accomplished semi-professional musician. However, my own musical knowledge is not too great. We would love to have a donation of an article for our website from someone who knows ... more Stillingfleet Tragedy Tony Singleton, Fri Jan 11 7:58PM Subscribers to this list might like to visit the website below which is under construction but is likely to be very interesting, relating to a West Gallery choir in Yorkshire which came to grief when out carolling on Boxing Day www.stillingfleettragedy.org Enjoy
Farmers Toast Anonymous, Mon Nov 5 8:18PM Can anyone let me have the music for the "Farmer's Toast". Either in note form or as a MIDI file. I would be most grateful. Michael Green. Devon Mike@mjgreen.wanadoo.co.uk
SingBirmingham! Edwin Macadam, Thu Oct 18 10:32AM Saturday 3rd November 2007 - 'SingBirmingham! - A Celebration of West Gallery Music' at St Mary's Church, Moseley. The Royal School of Church Music has requested WGMA to help in a day-long workshop of west gallery music for the benefit of their members, and with a view to providing RSCM members an insight into this... more We gat not this by our own sword Tim Henderson, Fri Jul 1 9:02PM Revising my acquaintance with the "Forms of Prayer to be used at Sea " in the Book of Common Prayer (e.g. as at http://www.eskimo.com/~lhowell/bcp1662/misc/sea.html ) I was interested to see "After Victory or Deliverance from an Enemy. A Psalm or Hymn of Praise and Thanksgiving after Victory" beginning "If the Lord ... more Northern Harmony Derek Hobbs, Mon Aug 1 10:22AM Hello - just thought you might be interested in a copy of Northern Harmony, the New England shape note hymn book that I have on eBay at the moment (ends Saturday coming). You can either go to eBay and search for Northern Harmony or follow the link below: (you might have to cut and paste the link if it has been divided ... more Isaac Watts Graham Morrison, Mon Aug 22 1:19AM You may be interested to know that Hackney Council have a policy to preserve Dr Watts' Mound in Abney Park Cemetery, where Isaac wrote many of his hymns, as a place of peace and contemplation. However, they are also considering giving permission for a large five storey development to be built on an adjacent site,... more
Newlyn Chapel Gallery Tim Henderson, Fri Sep 15 9:40PM Maybe a bit off topic, but I have only just realised that Newlyn Trinity Methodist Chapel was a contender for the BBC Restoration Village Final. A splendid panorama at http://lookaroundcornwall.com/panos/trinity.htm and background on the BBC site at ... more
Darnall Parish Church Stephen Howlett, Fri Sep 14 5:16PM Does anyone have any information about a WG choir/band at Darnall parish church in Sheffield? There is a family story that my great-great grandfather played the bass there in about 1840.
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