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This Forum has been set up for members of the West Gallery Music Association and any others who are interested in the music, the literature (starting with Thomas Hardy!) and the social life and times during which musicians played and sang in the galleries - usually at the west end - of our country churches. It is hoped that, in time, this may become the forum for debate on scholarly and not-so-scholarly matters. Please use this space wisely, and within the accepted bounds required for such a discussion group.

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Hark the Glad Sound in Castleton Cavern
David Welch, Fri Dec 8 9:29pm
Carol singing in the Derbyshire village of Castleton has had a long history of documentation. Even Vaughan Williams visited. In Ian Russell`s text, The Bells of Paradise (1990) there`s a reference of 1772 to the miners singing in the mine cavern for money. But what I hadn`t connected with until this Christmas is that... more

  • Samuel Alcock
    Chris Brown, Tue Nov 21 1:15pm
    Has anyone come across a composer called Samuel Alcock? Any biographical or music information would be appreciated.

    William Matthews Tune Books
    Jonathan Stanyon, Sat Nov 4 2:02pm
    Back in January last year there was some discussion about William Matthews. I have managed to see a copy of The Cherub but three tunes, listed in the index are missing from the book (Alma, Sherwood, and Risley). Alma and Sherwood I have picked up from other sources, but Risley is the most important one as I live only... more

  • Origin of the CM tune Effingham
    David Welch, Mon Jul 31 9:15am
    Does anyone know how and when the CM tune Effingham got its name? This 3-time tune is clearly related to Winchester New, aka Crasselius (HTI 1664d) but that tune is LM 8888. Modern hymnbooks are little help: “adapted from a tune in Musikalsiches Handbuch, 1690, Hamburg”. And they say the same for Winchester New. HTI... more

    Jonathan Stanyon, Fri Apr 28 8:48pm
    Thank you everyone for the feedback. I thought the Review of the Tune Book was interesting, and as one of you said I should like to have a look at it. Thanks again. Jonathan

    Jonathan Stanyon, Wed Apr 19 8:42pm
    I just wondered if anyone had come across a chap called Tymperly. I came across two pieces, one called 'Tymperly' and the other 'Tymperly's Farewell' These are included in 'The Wesleyan Psalmist' (held at Epworth Old Rectory), with arrangements by Edward Booth of Leeds and printed in London. No date is given but... more

  • West Gallery singers and players in Chobham, Surrey
    Christine Shirley, Tue Apr 4 5:06pm
    Dear Ros Thank you so much for all the information. A lot of it, as regards the beer, is new to me. I am in the process of cataloging a distant cousin's large collection, with the important aid of a computer-whizz cousin. This is very time- consuming. I admit I was delighted to find the 1770 psalm book. It is very... more

    Chobham, Surrey quire 1770
    C Shirley, Tue Mar 21 5:31pm
    I have ancestors from Chobham in Surrey and have a psalter dated 1770. I wondered if there are lists or mentions of Chobham quires, perhaps including the surnames Nesmyth and Bartholmew (without the second o). Thank you.CS

  • Text of Psalm 33
    Francis Roads, Wed Mar 15 11:00am
    Please can anyone identify this version of the opening verses of Psalm 33: "Rejoice in the Lord, ye people all, for it becometh us well to be thankful. Praise ye the Lord, and sing unto him with a new song." This is not metrical, and does not appear to be KJV or BCP. It is the text of an anthem in Francis Timbrell's... more

    Mixed psalm verses
    Francis Roads, Tue Feb 14 5:03pm
    The subjoined text for Psalm 1 appears in Henry Playford's The Divine Companion (Edition 3, London 1707, page 1). Verse 1 is from Miles Smyth's paraphrases, and verses 2 and 4 are NV. The other verses I have not been able to identify. I have never come across such verse mixing before; has anyone else? And can you... more

  • Bowman, C18 minister and hymn composer
    David Welch, Thu Feb 2 9:51am
    I have spotted in the latest Early Music (vol 44 pp 77-88) an article on a Norfolk minister that could be of interest to WG folk in the eastern counties. From the Abstract, Thomas Bowman produced "several hymns" but his "musical talent was slender". He died in 1792, but only two of his tunes have reached HTI, this in... more

    Psalm paraphrasers
    Francis Roads, Sun Jan 8, 2017 12:58pm
    In researching Playford's Divine Companion, I have found psalm paraphrases attributed to Dr. Flexman, and Drummond (no forename given.) Can anyone identify these people please?

  • West Galleries near Carshalton?
    Francis Roads, Mon Jan 2, 2017 5:43pm
    I have been asked to run a West Gallery workshop in the Carshalton area. My contact would like to use a church with a suitable west gallery. Does anyone know of one anywhere near Carshalton?

    Hymn parody
    Francis Roads, Sat Oct 8, 2016 10:22am
    David Owen Norris wants to know if anybody can identify this hymn parody; who wrote it, and of which original is it a parody. This is the first of six verses; I can send the remainder to anyone who is interested. Ye who have hearts – aloud rejoice, For Oligarchy trembles Like boxes in a theatre – From shouts at Keans... more

  • Psalm 117 paraphrase
    Francis Roads, Tue Oct 4, 2016 10:35am
    Please can anyone identify this paraphrase of Ps 117? It is set by an anonymous composer in Playford's Divine Companion (London 1701) O all ye nations record the praises of the Lord: Ye people through the universe your maker's praise rehearse. For he to us great kindness shows, and mercies large bestows, His constant... more

  • Early Welsh Tunes
    cbrowo, Tue Aug 2, 2016 9:50am
    I have been looking at a Welsh book from the 1790s. This is in two parts (neither the melody) and without words. Amongst lots of familiar English tunes there are Welsh ones. 1. On some of the Welsh tunes the metre is given as WM. Is this something other people have encountered? If so what does it say about the metre... more

  • Workshop leaflets
    Francis Roads, Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:57pm
    Thw WGMA has a new publicity leaflet, aimed at interesting outside bodies in holding a West Gallery workshop. It is hoped that quires will want to have these available at performances, along with our usual publicity leaflet, and to look for other opportunities to distribute them. Files for copying can be downloaded... more

    Text identification
    Francis Roads, Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:10am
    Does anyone recognise this text? Google Books isn't very helpful. Hark! how the saints in lofty strains With songs the throne surrounds. Hark how they fill the starry plains, With an immortal sound.

  • Quire Music
    Sylvia, Mon May 30, 2016 11:44am
    I am running a course in West Gallery Quire singing for Canterbury U3A - How can I get sheet music please?

  • Reel-to-reel recording
    Francis Roads, Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:51am
    I have received an offer of a reel-to-reel BBC recording of Hardy's Harvest WGMA meeting at Puddletown on 23rd September 1990. Clearly this is an important achive which we should receive gratefully, but, does anyone have the technology to transfer a reel-to-reel tape recording to a more modern format, preferably... more

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