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This Forum has been set up for members of the West Gallery Music Association and any others who are interested in the music, the literature (starting with Thomas Hardy!) and the social life and times during which musicians played and sang in the galleries - usually at the west end - of our country churches. It is hoped that, in time, this may become the forum for debate on scholarly and not-so-scholarly matters. Please use this space wisely, and within the accepted bounds required for such a discussion group.

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Jonathan Stanyon, Wed Apr 19 8:42pm
I just wondered if anyone had come across a chap called Tymperly. I came across two pieces, one called 'Tymperly' and the other 'Tymperly's Farewell' These are included in 'The Wesleyan Psalmist' (held at Epworth Old Rectory), with arrangements by Edward Booth of Leeds and printed in London. No date is given but... more

  • West Gallery singers and players in Chobham, Surrey
    Christine Shirley, Tue Apr 4 5:06pm
    Dear Ros Thank you so much for all the information. A lot of it, as regards the beer, is new to me. I am in the process of cataloging a distant cousin's large collection, with the important aid of a computer-whizz cousin. This is very time- consuming. I admit I was delighted to find the 1770 psalm book. It is very... more

    Chobham, Surrey quire 1770
    C Shirley, Tue Mar 21 5:31pm
    I have ancestors from Chobham in Surrey and have a psalter dated 1770. I wondered if there are lists or mentions of Chobham quires, perhaps including the surnames Nesmyth and Bartholmew (without the second o). Thank you.CS

  • Text of Psalm 33
    Francis Roads, Wed Mar 15 11:00am
    Please can anyone identify this version of the opening verses of Psalm 33: "Rejoice in the Lord, ye people all, for it becometh us well to be thankful. Praise ye the Lord, and sing unto him with a new song." This is not metrical, and does not appear to be KJV or BCP. It is the text of an anthem in Francis Timbrell's... more

    Mixed psalm verses
    Francis Roads, Tue Feb 14 5:03pm
    The subjoined text for Psalm 1 appears in Henry Playford's The Divine Companion (Edition 3, London 1707, page 1). Verse 1 is from Miles Smyth's paraphrases, and verses 2 and 4 are NV. The other verses I have not been able to identify. I have never come across such verse mixing before; has anyone else? And can you... more

  • Bowman, C18 minister and hymn composer
    David Welch, Thu Feb 2 9:51am
    I have spotted in the latest Early Music (vol 44 pp 77-88) an article on a Norfolk minister that could be of interest to WG folk in the eastern counties. From the Abstract, Thomas Bowman produced "several hymns" but his "musical talent was slender". He died in 1792, but only two of his tunes have reached HTI, this in... more

    Psalm paraphrasers
    Francis Roads, Sun Jan 8 12:58pm
    In researching Playford's Divine Companion, I have found psalm paraphrases attributed to Dr. Flexman, and Drummond (no forename given.) Can anyone identify these people please?

  • West Galleries near Carshalton?
    Francis Roads, Mon Jan 2 5:43pm
    I have been asked to run a West Gallery workshop in the Carshalton area. My contact would like to use a church with a suitable west gallery. Does anyone know of one anywhere near Carshalton?

    Hymn parody
    Francis Roads, Sat Oct 8 10:22am
    David Owen Norris wants to know if anybody can identify this hymn parody; who wrote it, and of which original is it a parody. This is the first of six verses; I can send the remainder to anyone who is interested. Ye who have hearts aloud rejoice, For Oligarchy trembles Like boxes in a theatre From shouts at Keans... more

  • Psalm 117 paraphrase
    Francis Roads, Tue Oct 4 10:35am
    Please can anyone identify this paraphrase of Ps 117? It is set by an anonymous composer in Playford's Divine Companion (London 1701) O all ye nations record the praises of the Lord: Ye people through the universe your maker's praise rehearse. For he to us great kindness shows, and mercies large bestows, His constant... more

  • Early Welsh Tunes
    cbrowo, Tue Aug 2 9:50am
    I have been looking at a Welsh book from the 1790s. This is in two parts (neither the melody) and without words. Amongst lots of familiar English tunes there are Welsh ones. 1. On some of the Welsh tunes the metre is given as WM. Is this something other people have encountered? If so what does it say about the metre... more

  • Workshop leaflets
    Francis Roads, Sat Jul 23 4:57pm
    Thw WGMA has a new publicity leaflet, aimed at interesting outside bodies in holding a West Gallery workshop. It is hoped that quires will want to have these available at performances, along with our usual publicity leaflet, and to look for other opportunities to distribute them. Files for copying can be downloaded... more

    Text identification
    Francis Roads, Tue Jun 14 11:10am
    Does anyone recognise this text? Google Books isn't very helpful. Hark! how the saints in lofty strains With songs the throne surrounds. Hark how they fill the starry plains, With an immortal sound.

  • Quire Music
    Sylvia, Mon May 30 11:44am
    I am running a course in West Gallery Quire singing for Canterbury U3A - How can I get sheet music please?

  • Reel-to-reel recording
    Francis Roads, Tue Apr 26 10:51am
    I have received an offer of a reel-to-reel BBC recording of Hardy's Harvest WGMA meeting at Puddletown on 23rd September 1990. Clearly this is an important achive which we should receive gratefully, but, does anyone have the technology to transfer a reel-to-reel tape recording to a more modern format, preferably... more

  • Red Book settings
    Peter John, Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:27am
    Many thanks to all who replied to my plea. Thanks to you Bristol Harmony now has two more user-friendly settings for our enjoyment. Best, Pete

    Portrait settings of Red Book pieces?
    Pete John, Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:29am
    Bristol Harmony would be very glad of pdfs of Red Book pieces 44, "Hail smiling morn" and 76, "Funaral". Any guidance as to who we might approach for these would be much appreciated. We've already explored Roding Music and the LGQ repertoire. All contributions gratefully received!

  • tae and brady psalms
    anne.willis@zen.co.uk, Sun Apr 3, 2016 3:31pm
    I suspect the droppping of Tate and Brady was a gradual thing. Our church acquired a new vicar, William Henry Jones, in 1851. He had attended the Surrey Chapel (Methodist/Congregational but used BCP) in his youth, and would have been well acquainted with Methodist hymnody. He was at Magdalen Hall, Oxford with Thomas... more

    Tate and Brady metrical psalms
    Josephine Pentney, Fri Apr 1, 2016 5:54pm
    Does anyone have any information about when (in general, it would have varied from parish to parish)the 'new' psalter of Tate and Brady went out of use in church services? I know that Hymns Ancient and Modern first appeared in 1861, ironically the same year that Thomas Hardy was given, by his mother, a copy of the... more

  • William Matthews
    cbrowo, Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:31am
    Thank you to everyone for your help. The manuscript pieces I have, both Tranquility and Chatsworth, are versions of the pieces you found. Clearly my detection skills need improvement. More practice needed. Chris Brown

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