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"let me freshen your drink Kate" — bfrey, Wed May 16 18:04

Woman's Intuition — Victoria Wilcox, Wed May 16 21:28
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Bob Pauls letter to the Tucson Citizen 1898? — bfrey, Sun May 13 18:20

RHP letter — Bob Paul, Mon May 14 09:51
- Not sure about Paul's support of Earps — Butch Badon, Mon May 14 14:35
- - Paul, — bfrey, Mon May 14 15:02
- several — bfrey, Mon May 14 10:50
- Oooops, "February 27, 1898". (nm) — Bob Paul, Mon May 14 09:54

FYI — Gary Roberts, Sun May 13 11:52

This is gonna cost you, Gary.... — K.t.K., Sun May 13 16:54
- I got some Ronco portable fishing pole (nm) — bfrey, Sun May 13 17:38
I received one saying you had been assaulted by Native-Ameri — Tom Gaumer, Sun May 13 14:02
- Re: I received one saying you had been assaulted by Native-Ameri — harveycmd, Sun May 13 15:16
- - I have read a number of your posts similar — Tom Gaumer, Sun May 13 20:05
  - - Re: I have read a number of your posts similar — harveycmd, Mon May 14 04:30
    - - Covered is good, if speed and armament are included. LOL? (nm) — Tom Gaumer, Mon May 14 09:37
      - Re: Covered is good, if speed and armament are included. LOL? — harveycmd, Mon May 14 09:55
Re: FYI — harveycmd, Sun May 13 12:39

Butch Cassidy-My Uncle — Richard Hinton, Fri May 11 08:34

Re: Butch Cassidy-My Uncle — R H, Fri May 11 13:38
- So, Richard did — Larry Dean, Fri May 11 18:19
- - looking forward to reading the book — Daniel Buck, Fri May 11 19:38

Time capsule in the Tombstone court house — bfrey, Fri May 11 06:39

Last word on the Tombstone's Time Capsule... — OldWestHistory.Net, Sat May 12 20:42
Oldwesthistory.com? — Larry K, Fri May 11 10:27
- Thanks Larry...its OldWestHistory.Net... — OldWestHistory.Net, Fri May 11 11:09
- - Page updated with original article... — OldWestHistory.Net, Fri May 11 17:34
  - Why not get those items and display them? — bfrey, Fri May 11 13:24
  - - In stead of going in with a sledge hammer, — OldWestHistory.Net, Fri May 11 16:22
    - - Did they say when they intended to open it? (nm) — Tom Gaumer, Fri May 11 18:32
      - Tom... — OldWestHistory.Net, Fri May 11 20:36
        
        Thanks Gary. good to hear from you. (nm) — Tom Gaumer, Fri May 11 21:11
  - Correction...120 years (nm) — OldWestHistory.Net, Fri May 11 11:12
  - - talk about a public attraction? — bfrey, Tue May 15 16:31
    - - Its all about "the money," bfrey...Thanks... (nm) — OldWestHistory.Net, Wed May 16 14:58
      - Yes, unfortunately it is sometimes... (nm) — bfrey, Wed May 16 17:20
Bits of history at the "Tombstone Courthouse" — Bob Paul, Fri May 11 09:11

Wyatt Earp and Dave Neagle — Jeff Morey, Thu May 10 12:27

This is all I have (1896): — K.t.K., Thu May 10 16:39
- Re: This is all I have (1896): — Peter Love, Thu May 10 20:00
- - Couple of problems with that account. — K.t.K., Fri May 11 05:12
  - - Claiborne backed Neagle..... — bfrey, Fri May 11 06:10
    - - Afterthought — Peter Love, Sat May 12 01:27
      - Question...? — Jeff Morey, Sat May 12 07:37
        
        I didn't say he was murderous — Peter Love, Sat May 12 16:56
        
        THE EARP DECISION — Jeff Morey, Sun May 13 00:42
        
        Re: THE EARP DECISION — Peter Love, Sun May 13 16:56
        
        Poor old Dave — Gary Roberts, Sun May 13 12:39
        
        Poor ol' 'south-paw' Dave. — K.t.K., Sun May 13 16:00
        
        Re: Poor ol' 'south-paw' Dave. — Peter Love, Wed May 16 23:10
        
        Question — bfrey, Sat May 12 08:12
        
        If.... — Jeff Morey, Sat May 12 10:02
        
        Re: Question — harveycmd, Sat May 12 09:22
        
        different sides of the fence — bfrey, Sat May 12 11:25
        
        Re: different sides of the fence — harveycmd, Sun May 13 07:03
        
        bit strong... — bfrey, Sun May 13 07:37
        
        Not a bit strong — K.t.K., Sun May 13 09:01
        
        Re: Not a bit strong — harveycmd, Sun May 13 12:34
        
        Premature articulation — Gary Roberts, Sat May 12 11:13
        
        would we consider..... — bfrey, Sat May 12 15:24
        
        considering — Gary Roberts, Sat May 12 16:04
        
        who arrested Doc and Wyatt for carrying arms? — bfrey, Sat May 12 22:33
        
        Officer Jim Flynn did, page 184, Life Behind the Legend (nm) — Tom Gaumer, Sun May 13 00:19

"those fellas pull to fast for us" — bfrey, Thu May 10 12:23

Perhaps it started in 1881 by the Tucson City Marshal: — K.t.K., Fri May 11 08:15
- Dillinger gang thought they were dealing with hicks — bfrey, Fri May 11 13:30

this has saddle sores written all over it!! — bfrey, Tue May 8 11:22

Boy those men ate some dust back than.... — bfrey, Tue May 8 15:24
One big question..................? — K.t.K., Tue May 8 15:02

Geraldo..."Back of the House" — OldWestHistory.Net, Fri May 4 12:11

First glance — Geraldo, Fri May 4 14:35
- could you help — bfrey, Fri May 4 18:45
- - bfrey... — OldWestHistory.Net, Fri May 4 21:37
  - - thanks (nm) — bfrey, Sun May 6 07:39
  - If I'm looking at it right... — Geraldo, Fri May 4 20:26

A question — Gary Roberts, Fri May 4 06:56

Re: A question — Sarah Stegall, Thu May 10 12:02
Re: A question — Peter Love, Sat May 5 16:38
A Question about the question. — Don Taylor, Sat May 5 07:52
- Tombstone weather — bfrey, Sun May 6 18:19
- Re: A Question about the question. — Nick Rogers, Sat May 5 12:47
- Thanks Don — K.t.K., Sat May 5 09:14
Gunsmoke — Victoria Wilcox, Fri May 4 21:33
Re: A question — Nick Rogers, Fri May 4 13:43
- Re: A question — harveycmd, Sat May 5 05:30
- - Re: A question — Nick Rogers, Sat May 5 12:19
  - - Re: A question — harveycmd, Sat May 5 12:23
    - - Re: A question — Nick Rogers, Sat May 5 12:55
http://youtu.be/0ukiFcTNS3Q (nm) — bfrey, Fri May 4 09:29
example of one gun's smoke and some considerations.. — bfrey, Fri May 4 09:20
- Another example — Troy, Sat May 5 09:36
Excellent point Gary. — Kevin Mulkins, Fri May 4 08:57

Holliday never had a death wish? — bfrey, Thu May 3 20:08

Re: Holliday never had a death wish? — Peter Christoph, Mon May 7 17:42
- John Clum believed he did. — Butch Badon, Wed May 9 18:18
how did the "death wish" start? — Anonymous, Sat May 5 20:49
- I believe Doc's reputation — bfrey, Sun May 6 08:34
- - Re: I believe Doc's reputation — Anonymous, Sun May 6 11:43
  - - Than he made a grand entrance... — bfrey, Sun May 6 14:50
    - - Re: Than he made a grand entrance... — Richard Weddle, Sun May 6 16:33
      - Re: Than he made a grand entrance... — Peter Love, Sun May 6 19:43
        
        someone will have to explain how the charged a person. — bfrey, Mon May 7 05:23
        
        agreed — Peter Love, Tue May 8 04:03
        
        Tyler demoted? — K.t.K., Mon May 7 16:27
        
        Maybe Joyce saved Doc's life? (nm) — Peter Love, Mon May 7 19:07
        
        Maybe Doc ultimately killed Joyce. — Jeff Morey, Tue May 8 12:15
        
        Re: Maybe Doc ultimately killed Joyce. — Nick Rogers, Tue May 8 15:40
        
        Re: Maybe Joyce saved Doc's life? — K.t.K., Tue May 8 04:45
        
        Maybe the deck was too stacked.. — bfrey, Tue May 8 07:56
        
        At this point? — K.t.K., Tue May 8 08:39
        
        maybe demoted is not a good word? — bfrey, Mon May 7 18:58
        
        Demoted Slopers — K.t.K., Tue May 8 03:08
        
        James Leavy??? — Bob Paul, Tue May 8 10:42
        
        Yeah, Bob. Same Jim Leavy, mis-named for decades as Levy (nm) — K.t.K., Tue May 8 14:50
        
        I dont disagree with that... — bfrey, Sun May 6 16:52
      - Re: Than he made a grand entrance... — Nick Rogers, Sun May 6 15:03
      - newspaper article — bfrey, Sun May 6 16:50
- anonymous — bfrey, Sat May 5 23:11
- - Re: anonymous — Richard Weddle, Sat May 5 23:25
- Wyatt's Nephew — Victoria Wilcox, Sat May 5 21:28
- - Re: Wyatt's Nephew — Nick Rogers, Sun May 6 10:51
  - Newton's boy V. E. Earp — K.t.K., Sun May 6 06:39
  - - Re: Newton's boy V. E. Earp — Anonymous, Sun May 6 11:13
    - - Ahhhh...the ol' crystalization scenario. I know it well. — K.t.K., Sun May 6 17:05
      - Doc's state of mind — Gary Roberts, Mon May 7 08:04
        
        Sorry — Gary Roberts, Mon May 7 08:05
        
        Doc's state of mind — Gary Roberts, Mon May 7 07:46
        
        Re: Doc's state of mind — Peter Love, Mon May 7 19:30
        
        "Blaze away... — Geraldo, Mon May 7 10:37
        
        Did fatalism trigger the gunfight? (nm) — bfrey, Mon May 7 18:59
      - Re: Newton's boy V. E. Earp — Nick Rogers, Sun May 6 15:04
Re: Holliday never had a death wish? — Nick Rogers, Fri May 4 13:36
- Fatal Attractions — Victoria Wilcox, Fri May 4 21:27
- - Re: Fatal Attractions — Nick Rogers, Sat May 5 12:22
  - - Diagnosis — Victoria Wilcox, Sat May 5 12:37
    - - Re: Diagnosis — Nick Rogers, Sat May 5 12:44
      - The problem — Gary Roberts, Sat May 5 13:42
        
        Re: The problem — Nick Rogers, Sun May 6 10:56
        
        Re: The problem — Nick Rogers, Sun May 6 12:26
        
        And that being said, Nick... — Victoria Wilcox, Sun May 6 19:34
        
        Re: And that being said, Nick... — Nick Rogers, Tue May 8 15:41
        
        The Georgia Burial — Victoria Wilcox, Tue May 8 16:37
        
        Re: The Georgia Burial — Gary Roberts, Wed May 9 07:36
        
        Re: The Georgia Burial — Nick Rogers, Sun May 13 09:30
        
        Underground — Victoria Wilcox, Sun May 13 21:44
        
        And this inqquiry comes to mind — Tom Gaumer, Sun May 13 23:56
        
        Re: And this inqquiry comes to mind — Nick Rogers, Mon May 14 14:50
        
        Moved — Victoria Wilcox, Mon May 14 06:02
        
        Re: Moved — Nick Rogers, Mon May 14 14:52
        
        Georgia Ground — Victoria Wilcox, Mon May 14 15:09
        
        Re: Georgia Ground — Nick Rogers, Mon May 14 15:37
        
        intriguing to say the least... (nm) — bfrey, Mon May 14 11:53
        
        Of grave concern — Gary Roberts, Mon May 14 07:04
        
        Re: Of grave concern — Nick Rogers, Mon May 14 15:16
        
        It would be nice. . . — Gary Roberts, Tue May 15 07:51
        
        Re: It would be nice. . . — Nick Rogers, Tue May 15 16:30
        
        The problem is . . . — Gary Roberts, Sun May 13 15:53
        
        An afterthought about Doc and consumption — Gary Roberts, Mon May 7 07:00
        
        Re: An afterthought about Doc and consumption — Nick Rogers, Mon May 7 15:58
        
        which begs the question on gambling? — bfrey, Sun May 6 08:27
        
        Gambling — Gary Roberts, Mon May 7 09:04
        
        Thanks, Gary! — Victoria Wilcox, Sat May 5 20:27
        
        This seems relevant to the discussion — Gary Roberts, Mon May 7 13:47
        
        fatalism — bfrey, Mon May 7 12:47
        
        Travels — Victoria Wilcox, Mon May 7 13:34
      - Typo — Victoria Wilcox, Sat May 5 12:41
- the legend... — bfrey, Fri May 4 18:00
- - Re: the legend... — Nick Rogers, Sat May 5 12:36

any date on when Wyatt started courting Sadie? (nm) — bfrey, Thu May 3 11:55

Re: any date on when Wyatt started courting Sadie? — Peter Love, Thu May 3 23:41
- Doc's charges in July/Sadie — bfrey, Fri May 4 11:57
- - Sadie — Peter Love, Fri May 4 20:58
  - Doc was considered the weak link of the "Earp Gang"??? (nm) — B.J., Fri May 4 13:24
  - - not at all — bfrey, Fri May 4 18:08
    - - weak link = achilles heel (nm) — B.J., Sat May 5 14:10
      - weak link..achilles hill — bfrey, Sat May 5 23:15
- According to Bill Shillingberg . . . — Gary Roberts, Fri May 4 06:40
- Some incidentals — K.t.K., Fri May 4 06:34
- - Sadie or Sada? (nm) — Butch Badon, Fri May 4 09:17
- Just wonderin' — Butch Badon, Fri May 4 04:50
- - Good question — Gary Roberts, Fri May 4 07:00

I shot the Sheriff... — Peter Love, Wed May 2 00:36

But it was with a controversy! — Peter Love, Mon May 7 01:19
- iPad strikes again (nm) — Peter Love, Mon May 7 01:21

A report for Tom — Gary Roberts, Tue May 1 09:16

Re: A report for Tom — Peter Love, Wed May 2 21:56
Not disappointed and knew it could only be theoretical — Tom Gaumer, Wed May 2 10:56
- It's curious — Gary Roberts, Wed May 2 12:47
Cuddy... — bfrey, Tue May 1 12:49
- Maybe it was Tom McLaury — Geraldo, Tue May 1 15:15
- Re: Cuddy — Gary Roberts, Tue May 1 13:33
- - minute or a half.. — bfrey, Tue May 1 20:25
  - - There's no evidence . . . — Gary Roberts, Wed May 2 06:46
    - - ok he was leaving quickly away from a gunfight........ — bfrey, Wed May 2 08:46
      - Based on what? — Gary Roberts, Wed May 2 08:52
        
        based on.... — bfrey, Wed May 2 10:40
  - Obviously nervous.... — bfrey, Tue May 1 15:25
  - - Cuddy (corrected, with apologies) — Gary Roberts, Wed May 2 08:45
    - - thanks, (no apologies needed) — bfrey, Wed May 2 10:51
    - Cuddy — Gary Roberts, Wed May 2 07:16
    - - passed through the lots.... — bfrey, Wed May 2 08:44
  - Re: Cuddy — B.J., Tue May 1 14:39
  - - That was West Fuller (nm) — Gary Roberts, Wed May 2 06:48
    - - Thanks pardner! (nm) — B.J., Wed May 2 08:23
    - Re: Cuddy — Peter Christoph, Tue May 1 21:39
Billy and Willie — Peter Christoph, Tue May 1 09:51
- "Mattie told Hattie" — Geraldo, Tue May 1 13:06
- - Good One Jerry.\ (nm) — Butch Badon, Wed May 9 18:26
- Re: Billy and Willie — harveycmd, Tue May 1 10:31
- - Re: Billy and Willie — Peter Christoph, Tue May 1 21:42

deadly shootings — James, Tue May 1 00:03

Re: deadly shootings — K.t.K., Wed May 2 06:20
- any description on how Ike was dressed the day of the fight? (nm — bfrey, Thu May 3 08:02
- There you go again,... — Steve Sanders, Wed May 2 20:42
- - don't let him fool ya, I'm waiting for volume 2! (nm) — bfrey, Thu May 3 20:05
  - - I tried.... — Steve Sanders, Thu May 3 22:31
  - Not really, Steve Sanders — K.t.K., Thu May 3 03:30
Re: deadly shootings — Peter Love, Wed May 2 00:50

question about Wild Bill — randy king, Sun Apr 29 18:58

gunfighter habits.. — bfrey, Mon Apr 30 05:08
- that would be greatly... — randy king, Mon Apr 30 07:22
- - sure and your right.... — bfrey, Mon Apr 30 09:25
  - - Dwight Eisenhower’s view on “code duello" — K.t.K., Mon Apr 30 10:11
    - - oblique warnings & the code duello — Daniel Buck, Tue May 1 05:00
      - WOW! I had no idea. — K.t.K., Tue May 1 07:00
Going to the source. — K.t.K., Sun Apr 29 19:35
- interesting, thank you Kenny (NM) — randy king, Sun Apr 29 21:25
- - Wild Bill — Gary Roberts, Mon Apr 30 09:00
  - - I not interested in know all about — randy king, Mon Apr 30 09:17
    - - Re: I not interested in know all about — harveycmd, Mon Apr 30 10:12
      - what I have read and surmised — Randy King, Mon Apr 30 11:11
        
        Re: what I have read and surmised — harveycmd, Tue May 1 05:19
        
        I believe so.. — Randy King, Tue May 1 07:37
        
        Re: I believe so.. — Anonymous, Tue May 1 09:58
        
        I understand your argument — Randy King, Tue May 1 10:31
        
        McCanles Gang — Larry Dean, Mon Apr 30 17:41
        
        The McCandles Fight — Gary Roberts, Tue May 1 07:13
        
        Wild Bill embellished — randy king, Mon Apr 30 18:01
        
        Duckbill just does not convey toughness (nm) — Peter Love, Mon Apr 30 16:57
        
        Correct Duck Bill does not — randy King, Mon Apr 30 17:13
        
        Duck Bill — Gary Roberts, Tue May 1 07:27
        
        ah history.. one is never quit sure — Randy King, Tue May 1 07:46
        
        Randy — Gary Roberts, Tue May 1 08:02
        
        thanks Gary, understood (NM) (nm) — randy King, Tue May 1 09:43
        
        tired out — K.t.K., Mon Apr 30 18:20
        
        and he was losing his eye sight — Randy King, Mon Apr 30 18:59
        
        Reflections put on paper — K.t.K., Mon Apr 30 20:39
        
        this Kenny is very interesting — Randy King, Tue May 1 07:19
        
        Keys — K.t.K., Tue May 1 08:31
        
        turning Deadwood on it's ear is worth the money anytime! (nm) — bfrey, Tue May 1 12:25
        
        One more Question — Randy King, Tue May 1 09:51
        
        Killers — K.t.K., Tue May 1 17:56
        
        Thanks you so much for this. it — Randy King, Tue May 1 19:00
        
        always a interesting and a pleasure — Randy King, Tue May 1 09:49

Jacob Strahle pool table — bfrey, Sun Apr 29 08:35

Nice! — K.t.K., Sun Apr 29 11:27
- pool table — bfrey, Sun Apr 29 14:29
- - Stay tuned for more details on those involved with Earp. (nm) — Peter Brand, Sun Apr 29 20:22
  - - can't wait. informal group or an organization? — bfrey, Mon Apr 30 12:46
  - Re: pool table — K.t.K., Sun Apr 29 18:56
  - - Kenny, notice you have Bob Hatch's — sharonc, Mon Apr 30 06:23
    - - Bob and Morg — K.t.K., Mon Apr 30 08:33

Butch, just for you my friend... — Bob Cash, Sat Apr 28 11:00

I am reminded of — Butch Badon, Sun Apr 29 08:32
At 8 feet tall he is now officially the "tall man" (nm) — bfrey, Sat Apr 28 16:39

Robert Utley's Geronimo Biography — harveycmd, Thu Apr 26 16:38

More Indian War books — Larry Dean, Fri Apr 27 06:54
- Wynkoop — Mark Dworkin, Fri Apr 27 08:31
- - Re: Wynkoop — harveycmd, Sat Apr 28 07:54
  - - Comanches — Larry Dean, Sat Apr 28 09:02
    - - Re: Comanches — harveycmd, Sat Apr 28 12:19
      - So you don't find Sand Creek Instructive ? (nm) — Larry Dean, Sat Apr 28 17:54
        
        Re: So you don't find Sand Creek Instructive ? — harveycmd, Sat Apr 28 18:31
        
        Re: So you don't find Sand Creek Instructive ? — Larry Dean, Sun Apr 29 06:18
        
        Re: So you don't find Sand Creek Instructive ? — harveycmd, Sun Apr 29 07:08
        
        Re: So you don't find Sand Creek Instructive ? — Larry Dean, Sun Apr 29 08:32
        
        Re: So you don't find Sand Creek Instructive ? — harveycmd, Thu May 3 05:54
- Larry D. Ball — harveycmd, Fri Apr 27 07:25
- - Larry Ball — DeArment, Sun Apr 29 08:56
  - Re: Larry Ball — Erik, Sat Apr 28 08:43
  - Re: Larry D. Ball — Larry Dean, Fri Apr 27 15:15
  - - Re: Larry D. Ball — harveycmd, Fri Apr 27 15:35
thanks for the heads up... (nm) — bfrey, Thu Apr 26 20:01

Wyatt and Doc — Bill, Thu Apr 26 14:43

From Wyatt Earp's statement at the Spicer hearing — Tom Gaumer, Thu Apr 26 21:50
- Oh Yeah, — Butch Badon, Fri Apr 27 17:57
- - A reporter might analyze these words differently — Tom Gaumer, Fri Apr 27 23:25
  - - And I tell you — Butch Badon, Sun Apr 29 08:33
- Wyatt and Doc — bfrey, Fri Apr 27 07:53
- - There are 30 references under Wyatt Earp concerning Doc — Tom Gaumer, Fri Apr 27 10:14
  - - Wyatt and Doc — bfrey, Fri Apr 27 18:44
    - - I don't understand your last paragraph. Sorry — Tom Gaumer, Fri Apr 27 23:42
      - working truth..... (nm) — bfrey, Sat Apr 28 05:47
        
        I said it poorly. Here is hopefully a better effort — Tom Gaumer, Sat Apr 28 12:13
        
        well said........ (nm) — bfrey, Sat Apr 28 12:29

Not Earp Related: 1859 Kansas Territory horse thieves — Martha Fanning, Wed Apr 25 11:16

R.I.P. Morg - born this day 4/24/1851 (nm) — K.t.K., Tue Apr 24 14:29

Papago cash store. — bfrey, Tue Apr 24 06:44

I believe it was moved onto Safford St. in Tombstone. — Tom Gaumer, Tue Apr 24 12:10
working on memory here — Butch Badon, Tue Apr 24 11:59
- Thanks, it is a clever way to preserve. (nm) — bfrey@charter.net, Tue Apr 24 12:29

Louisa Earp question??? — Tombstone Dave, Mon Apr 23 09:37

Re: Louisa Earp question??? — Nick Rogers, Tue Apr 24 15:17
Re: Louisa Earp question??? — Nick Rogers, Mon Apr 23 15:42
- Another myth has to be exploded. — K.t.K., Mon Apr 23 19:22
- - Boom! (nm) — steve sanders, Tue Apr 24 16:21
  - Re: Another myth has to be exploded. — Nick Rogers, Tue Apr 24 15:14
  - - Okay with me, Sam Houston. (nm) — K.t.K., Tue Apr 24 15:58
    - - Re: Okay with me, Sam Houston. — Nick Rogers, Tue Apr 24 18:25
      - Sammy dishes it out -- can't take it. (nm) — K.t.K., Wed Apr 25 05:27

Lee Silva's Tombstone Volume II — Steve Hartley, Mon Apr 23 07:25

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