The only thing that has been offered by the posters here in response to my intelligent, civil posts is "every Obama/Clinton screw-up is OK because of what Bush did".You call that intelligent conversation? Maybe if one of those people that was killed in Benghazi were one of your loved ones, you might think differently.Your friends vehemently defend one rotten, incompetent administration because of another rotten, incompetent administration. That doesn't quite cut it in intelligent circles.