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bob mills for jdb
trump and the goldwater rule
Tue Jan 16, 2018 09:32

The New York Times article I cited mentioned the Goldwater Rule in the context of the question, "Is Trump sane?" It never cited Scho(e)nfeld or Hauptmann, but i made the connection here.

I hear you about "bad guys" in politics, John. I think Trump won because 1) people were desperate for an outsider, and Washington is in fact a swamp that needs draining, 2) Hillary was a poor candidate who played identity politics (when will the Democrats realize that doesn't work?) 3) an anti-intellectual trend has taken over, especially in flyover country, where the educated bourgeoisie you referred to is resented. Most of all, Hillary's "deplorables" comment turned middle-class voters against her. The first rule of politics is...don't insult the voters, and she broke it.

  • It's Just As Welljdb, Mon Jan 15 18:21
    It's just as well there's the Goldwater rule, although without it we might have been "spared" (for those of us who don't like him) President Donald Trump. I don't like terms like "pathological... more
    • trump and the goldwater rule — bob mills for jdb, Tue Jan 16 09:32
      • Politics & Sanityjdb, Tue Jan 16 15:52
        Sadly, Bob. the American political process has become unhinged. It's always been problematical, and yet it's become near unmanageable; and it's not even fun to follow anymore. We're in a near... more
        • 21st century politics, and wilentzbob mills for jdb, Tue Jan 16 18:59
          Thanks, John. Wilentz conducted a brutal prosecution of Hauptmann. It was the 1936 Berlin Olympics in reverse...a Jewish American prosecutor engaging in a vendetta against an Aryan defendant, with... more
          • correctionbob mills for forum, Mon Jan 22 13:37
            Allow me to correct a misstatement in this posting. Sean Wilentz is a professor at Princeton, but he is not David Wilentz' grandson. Otherwise the posting is accurate in claiming that David Wilentz... more
            • Much Appreciatedjdb, Mon Jan 22 15:00
              Your correction is much appreciated, Bob. By me anyway. I have to wonder, though, just how many people there are in New Jersey named Wilentz who are NOT related to David. It's not a common name but I ... more
              • distant cousin, maybe?bob mills for jdb, Tue Jan 23 14:31
                It's quite remarkable, John. I first read about Sean Wilentz years ago (can't remember the source), and I'm sure the writer cited a family connection. You'd think someone named "Wilentz" in New... more
                • Sean Wilentz & Familyjdb, Tue Jan 23 19:12
                  Bob, I looked Sean Wilentz up after I posted and his bio says he was born on New York City, a place even bigger than anyplace in Jersey, so I suppose it's not all that rational to assume that Sean is ... more
          • Painfuljdb, Tue Jan 16 19:22
            It was a painful election, Bob. Maybe the most excruciating for me at a personal level as I intensely disliked both candidates, and for different reasons. I can't even remember who I voted for except ... more
            • flawed justicebob mills for jdb and forum, Thu Jan 18 12:33
              You and I are on the same page here, John. I thought of the LKC while reading an article in today's New York Times that cited the state of Louisiana for the many times its state attorney refused to... more
              • Whited and HochmuthRichard E Sloan, Sun Jan 21 14:08
                The obviously perjured testimony of those two should have been enough to have Wilentz censured. But Lindy's own ID of Bruno's voice after so long a time swayed the jury right at the outset. They may... more
                • I Agreejdb, Tue Jan 23 03:12
                  I agree with everything you wrote, Richard. Lindbergh in particular was handled poorly,--scarcely handled at all, really--during the Hauptmann trial. The truth of everything he stated was taken for... more
                  • the last real hero?bob mills for jdb and forum, Wed Jan 24 05:00
                    Insightful comments, John. Lindy might have been the last American hero to transcend iconoclasm. And even he lost his lustre as a suspected anti-Semite and America First leader. He flew the Atlantic... more
                  • challenging LindyRichard E Sloan, Tue Jan 23 11:16
                    I dont think Reilly's mental health was a factor in not challenging CAL's testimony. I think that to have done so would have incensed the jury, rather than place any doubt in their minds. Dont... more
                    • Reilly In Courtjdb, Tue Jan 23 13:16
                      My word usage wasn't quite right, Richard. As to my take on Reilly's conduct in court he likely correctly assessed the situation re any questioning of the truth or integrity of Lindbergh and chose... more
              • The Trialjdb, Sat Jan 20 23:54
                Thanks, Bob. The LKC trial was a travesty, and Edward Reilly's conduct reprehensible. It's appalling what's permitted sometimes in our criminal justice system, and while it appears to be improved... more
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