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Michael 5260 for Jack
Re: Trendley
Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:00

Trendley doesn't find any identification value in the "x's" found in the ransom notes and also found in Hauptmann's automobile documents. They are also found in Hauptmann's address book where he writes "box" and "Alexander".

Trendley tells the jury the "x's" are typical of German people and that they are German in nature. He certainly put the kibosh on the idea that an American was writing the ransom notes and trying to sound like a German. Thanks John.

So Trendley deems the "x's" Teutonic. Where can we find Teutonic writers. Right here:

United Kingdom

At the present day we are talking about over 500 million Teutonic writers. Going back to 1932 we are still talking about millions and millions of writers that write an "x" just like Hauptmann, according to Trendley. This is preposterous to a reasonable thinking human being.

The "x's" are not English examples. You can look at the Zaner-Bloser and Palmer handwriting alphabets (two of the largest handwriting systems at the time) and see they are not. We can toss in the Spencerian alphabet for good measure and see the "x's" did not come from there either.

The "x's" are not German examples. You can look at the Kurrentschrift and Sutterlin alphabets and see they are not.

They are not from Latin script or Roman script alphabets when the "x's" are compared to them.

They are not Yiddish examples. This is very obvious but I thought I would mention it since someone once said they thought the Lindbergh ransom notes had a Yiddish influence in them. Based on what? We are never told about such things. I guess it is none of our business.

The "x's" are personalized, individualized letter forms that have evidential weight. Hauptmann either learned to write the "x" incorrectly when he was learning to write in Germany and wasn't corrected about it by his penmanship teacher, or he developed the letter form on his own once he put his handwriting into everyday use as an adult. A writer is not a slave to the copybook, alphabet, or handwriting system they were first taught as a student. They do not slavishly replicate letter forms exactly even when they are a handwriting student. We write the way we write because that is the way we like to write. Whatever is most comfortable and efficient to them is the way a writer will write.

Trendley's and Reilly's intention was to befog the jurors minds. It didn't work. Well, at least not the jurors.

  • TrendleyJack, Sat Feb 10 15:31
    I don't know much about Trendley but sounds like it would be fun looking into him, so I'll follow your advice. Doesn't sound like much of a handwriting examiner - self appointed?
    • Re: Trendley — Michael 5260 for Jack, Sun Feb 11 12:00
      • H HandwritingJack for Michael 5260, Mon Feb 12 03:39
        Good diagnosis. I thought the NYPD could have caught Hauptmann earlier by the license cards and the x. At the time they thought it would have been too much work I guess, but if they would have used... more
        • Re: H HandwritingMichael 5260 for Jack and Joe, Mon Feb 12 11:08
          Jack, you can Google, MSN, or Yahoo search engines and find John Trendley's handwriting testimony. Once you have a printout in front of you we can go through it all. This hasn't been done before... more
        • Re: H HandwritingJoe, Mon Feb 12 06:56
          Great discussion, guys. Yes it may be somewhat hindsight regarding the whodunit, but I fully agree investigators should have put the effort into what Leigh Matteson suggested, something which had far ... more
          • MattesonJack, Fri Feb 16 15:08
            Well, of course "Matteson's idea" was correct, but hadn't Finn thought of it earlier and been turned town? Was a no brainer and mentioned above and on the forum many times. Perhaps not mentioned on... more
            • Re: MattesonJoe for Jack, Fri Feb 16 19:46
              I don't know for sure who thought of the idea first, but I thought it was Matteson who suggested it to Finn. Regardless, there was so much there in that brief license application card.. what's... more
              • Q'sJ............, Mon Feb 19 03:15
                I always figured it was too late to bring Charlie back, so not too important. Also was going along the lines of he could have been caught earlier. Too bad, probably wouldn't have been so many... more
              • MattesonJack, Mon Feb 19 02:45
                Didn't Finn write a book or article(s)? on "Hoe I Caught the Lindbergh Kidnapper? Has anyone ever seen a copy of that? Might be more interesting than Schoenfeld's book which I hear isn't worth much.... more
                • Re: MattesonJoe for Jack, Tue Feb 20 08:37
                  Finn co-wrote an article titled "How I Captured Hauptmann" for Liberty Magazine, that appeared in seven installments in late 1935. I'm not sure if anyone's ever complied the collection but it would... more
                  • Get Rid of...Jack for Joe, Wed Feb 21 03:32
                    Me too. I think CAL could have pretty easily hidden Charlie away if he'd wanted to. He almost was doing that anyway. History is filled with lots of incorrect children that weren't murdered off by... more
                  • fINN'S liberty ARTICLESRichard E Sloan, Tue Feb 20 16:59
                    I think the entire series of Finn's articles are in the Police Mus. and Learning Center in W. Trenton. I also think that LKC buffs Sam Bornstein and Nancy Attardo may have them. Sam reads and posts... more
                • True Evidence in TLCj....., Mon Feb 19 02:46
                  Above was "Jack for Joe."
              • Re: MattesonJoe , Sat Feb 17 08:50
                On second thought, Hauptmann would have had little problem explaining this somehow and then, as Gardner put it, flitting down to the next fence post.. waiting for the next question..
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