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Sam for bob
The ladder
Wed Mar 7, 2018 08:57
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Yes, this rendition inaccurately uses three ladder sections, instead of two. Also, the baby is not in a burlap bag which many believe was used to carry Charlie off.

My question for the board, really, was do people think the baby was killed immediately after the snatch from a fall?

  • photobob mills for sam and forum, Wed Mar 7 05:22
    My understanding is that the ladder did not reach the window sill. Very interesting rendition though, Sam.
    • The ladder — Sam for bob, Wed Mar 7 08:57
      • Dr. Michael BadenSue, Sat Mar 10 14:41
        Dr. Michael M. Baden reviewed the evidence for his October 1983 article in The Journal of Forensic Science, and said that the death could not be determined. According to Joyce Milton, Baden says that ... more
        • 1) Eckert, W.G.; Lindbergh, C., 1980: The Lindbergh case. A triumph in forensic investigation. American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology 1(2): 151-153... more
          • forensicsbib mills for sue and forum, Sat Mar 10 18:09
            The "official" ruling from the autopsy was that the Eaglet died from a fractured skull. Of course, that could have been a result of deliberate action by the absuctor or from an accident (a fall from... more
            • Talk of a BulletSue for Bob, Sun Mar 11 16:26
              I don't know either, but many sources talk of being killed by gunshot. Whether or not to believe them is another story, but here are some other sources: 1) J. R. Russell in Loss of Eden by Joyce... more
            • Re: forensicsSue for Bob, Sat Mar 10 19:06
              Initially, Dr. Mitchell said he believed it was a gunshot wound. Investigators were up in the Mount Rose woods hoping to find the spent bullet.
      • Re: The laddersteve for bob, Thu Mar 8 12:20
        i think the baby was killed in the room
        • the ladder and the eagletbob mills for steve and forum, Thu Mar 8 18:21
          I can't prove you wrong, Steve. But if I try to think like the kidnapper, I ask myself, "What do I stand to gain by killing the Eaglet?" If he was a "legitimate" kidnapper, in that his motive was... more
      • Re: The ladderJoe, Wed Mar 7 14:28
        Great post and springboard for discussion, Sam! My thoughts.. The kidnapper(s) must have believed three sections might be required, as indicated by the retreating footprint evidence to where the... more
        • when did the baby die?Richard E Sloan, Fri Mar 9 16:19
          Nobody has mentioned that a kidnapper with a live baby was no asset! The baby would need someone to take care of him and at a pre-determined hideout where nobody would hear him cry. The baby was... more
          • what can we presume?bob mills for richard and forum, Sat Mar 10 09:57
            If we presume that the Eaglet's abductor was a LONE KIDNAPPER, then Richard is right, caring for him alone would have been more difficult than killing him. But I've always thought the central... more
            • lone wolf?Richard E Sloan, Sat Mar 10 11:11
              hat's an interesting response. I am not convinced Bruno was the man who actually snatched the baby. Maybe there WAS a plan to take him alive but he was dropped when the ladder cracked, which changed... more
          • goof in a sentenceRichard Sloan, Fri Mar 9 16:24
            I meant to write "The idea that the heavy footprint was due to the kidnapper suddenly landing in the mud because the ladder rail split IS A GOOD ONE." But.... etc;
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