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bob mills for joe and forum
how the mob operates
Fri Apr 13, 2018 08:39

Joe, my understanding of mob tactics is that they put out an offer "on the street" for a particular job at a set price. Often it's a murder contract. They want someone eliminated, but the mob bosses want to keep themselves "clean," so it's done via arm-length negotiations. In the case of the LKC the motivation wasn't eliminating anyone, it was getting Al Capone out of prison. This was the era of the "snatch racket," and the mob's only requirement was that the contractual kidnapper must choose a family they knew could pay whatever ransom he chose to demand. The ransom would become, in effect, the mob's "payment" to the kidnapper. Of course, when the Eaglet died during the abduction, all bets were off. Capone didn't know the gang had screwed up, so he proceeded with his offer, one he never could have fulfilled if Hauptmann had been a lone kidnapper...simply because Capone would have never known who had done the job (he assumed it was the gang hired by his underlings). Your argument that Capone would have ordered Hauptmann killed is based on the faulty logic that the kidnap gang was familiar to Big Al. That's not the way contracts within the mob work. They were ad hoc kidnappers working on a contractual basis, not Capone's personal friends.

Duane Baker (Bacon) was a career criminal. He was the only individual who had access to the Plymouth Apartments dumbwaiter where "J./J. Faulkner" appeared. He also left town shortly after the ransom exchange at St. Raymond's, with the monthly rent receipts in his pocket. The Faulkner name appeared when the first significant ransom money was laundered, just before FDR's deadline for turning in gold certificates ($100. could be retained).

Duane Baker was also acquainted with Charles Henry Ellerson, the Morrow chauffeur who drove Betty Gow to Highfields earlier that day. Aside from Violet Sharpe and Red Johnson, Ellerson was the only person outside the Morrow/Lindbergh families who knew the Lindberghs were staying overnight for the only Tuesday ever. Now, in the world would Hauptmann, on his own, ever have guessed this?

Finally, we have Jafsie Condon communicating with a local newspaper, one with a limited circulation, in order to contact a kidnapper from Central New Jersey. Does that add up in your mind? This same Jafsie told FBI Agent Leon Turrou "My life won't be worth five cents (if I say Hauptmann was Cemetery John)." Adding these two facts together, is it not clear to you that Jafsie knew a mob contractee had done the deed?

  • Re: hauptmann's choice (not to be confused with sophie's)Joe for Bob Mills, Thu Apr 12 11:29
    Bob, by your own admission of the invasiveness and severity of mob tactics, if Hauptmann had had anything at all to do with this kind of scheme, you know he wouldn't have survived April 1932. Do you... more
    • how the mob operates — bob mills for joe and forum, Fri Apr 13 08:39
      • Re: how the mob operatesJoe for Bob Mills, Sat Apr 14 09:29
        Bob, I can't even entertain the notion Capone would not have known who the kidnappers were and that retribution for the baby's death would not have been immediately forthcoming. The only reason big... more
        • my last comments on the issuebob mills for joe and forum, Sun Apr 15 04:46
          Joe, I'm not sure what you meant by "...a golden opportunity to beat a major rap." Capone was in prison on a relatively minor rap, i.e., income tax evasion. He'd already been convicted, so he... more
    • Re: hauptmann's choice (not to be confused with sophie's)Michael 5260 for Joe, Thu Apr 12 14:25
      Joe, can you imagine what would have happened if Hauptmann had reported back to Big Al with $50,000 instead of $70,000. Al would have been reaching for his baseball bat. When Hauptmann made the... more
      • Last PostJack, Sat Apr 14 14:13
        Amen, Michael.
      • respectful dissentbob mills for michael melsky, Fri Apr 13 12:54
        Michael, Big Al wasn't expecting anyone to bring him money, not $50,000., not $70,000. As you and many others have pointed out accurately, this was a small amount in mob terms. The kidnapping wasn't... more
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