Richard Sloan
sect. 3 of the ladder
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:37

I have never before come across the thought-provoking theory you presented Joe -- that perhaps there had already been a previous aborted kidnap attempt. Hmmm. I'd like to read what other posters think of this.

  • Re: 3 sectionsJoe for Richard and Forum, Thu Jul 12 12:30
    Two sections seems to be the consensus of investigators, due to the scrape marks on the wall where the two sections would have rested. Yet it seems plausible to me, that two sections could have been... more
    • sect. 3 of the ladder — Richard Sloan, Fri Jul 13 10:37
      • Re: sect. 3 of the ladderJoe, Fri Jul 13 12:19
        Richard, I believe several investigators including Schwartzkopf, felt a previous attempt or trial run might have been made prior to March 1. But I think when you factor in the apparent last minute... more
        • ladder and dowelRichard Sloan, Fri Jul 13 14:03
          I agree with your thinking. I always wondered why -- at the last minute, so to speak -- Bruno would have had to go up to the Rauchs' attic to cut out a floor board to fashion rail 16. Nobody seems to ... more
          • Re: ladder and dowelJoe , Fri Jul 13 14:55
            Actually, Mannfried wasn't even a twinkle in Hauptmann's at the time of the kidnapping. (b. November 3, 1933) It appears most likely that Hauptmann simply retrieved the piece of wood he fashioned... more
            • rail 16Richard Sloan, Fri Jul 13 16:20
              oops! you are right about when "the twinkle" was born! I never came across the story about the wood having been tossed into the basement. That only makes a little bit of sense, not much. There would... more
              • Re: rail 16Joe, Fri Jul 13 18:50
                When you look at how the original piece of wood that became Rail 16, was cut, I believe only a very sloppy carpenter would have left such a long and angular overhang beyond the wooden joist beneath.... more
                • LadderJack, Mon Jul 16 02:57
                  Of course we've all looked at this a lot over the years and it seems to me that bringing all three sections to the crime scene is just another nail in Hauptmann's coffin. Of which there are several... more
                  • Re: LadderJoe, Mon Jul 16 11:53
                    Koehler and Keith had a field day with the ladder pinning it back on Hauptmann, and their work represented a new high water mark in materials forensics. Hauptmann couldn't have seen it all coming,... more
                    • ExcellentSam, Mon Jul 16 13:03
                      This is an excellent, informative, mainly non-argumentative thread. A big thanks to all participants, and I hope the board sees more of this kind of discourse. I learned - or had forgotten - that... more
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