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Michael
Re: My research must be flawed
Thu Aug 2, 2018 07:28
2001:558:6027:18:6db1:35f3:150b:93a9

He then hung up the receiver and advised those present, including the Division Agents previously named:

"It doesn't look so good. He says that when he first looked at the specimens he thought they were the same, and that there were some striking similarities, but after examining them for a while he found a lot of dissimilarities, which outweighed the similarities, and is convinced he did not write the ransom notes. His father is coming to examine them in the morning, first thing. I told him we would give them more specimens to work with, but he doesn't think that would change his mind."

I do not know what opinion was rendered or expressed by Mr. Osborn Sr., prior to the discovery of the ransom money. However, I feel sure from conversations with Lieutenant Finn and Colonel Schwarzkopf that he did not give a positive opinion that Hauptmann wrote the ransom notes until after the money was discovered....


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After the final opinion by Mr. Osborn Sr., there was some discussion among the officers and some laughing as to the ability of handwriting experts, it being pointed out that the Osborns did not make the identification until after the money was found.




  • My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Wed Aug 1 13:42
    I went looking for a legendary, landmark, seminal text on forensic document examination written by John M. Trendley. There was nothing to find. Here was a man that was contrary in his handwriting... more
    • trendilybob mills for michael 5260 and forum, Thu Aug 2 18:28
      All I remember about handwriting is that if one's script slants to the right, one is an optimist (the reverse for a pessimist), and if one's capital letters are especially large relative to one's... more
    • Re: My research must be flawed — Michael, Thu Aug 2 07:28
      • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Thu Aug 2 10:29
        The first person the investigators called was Albert S. Osborn. He was in bed with a bad cold so he advised the investigators to call his son. They did. Albert D. Osborn agreed to met the police at... more
        • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Thu Aug 2 12:08
          Okay. So what I am seeing is that the Osborns both agreed with Trendley before they disagreed with him. Yet when it comes to Trendley all I see from you is FANGS and CLAWS. When it comes to the... more
          • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Thu Aug 2 14:20
            Albert S. Osborn did not agree with John Trendley. Saying so does not make it so. You bet it's fangs and claws with John Trendley. Someone like him is very dangerous to the legal profession. This is... more
            • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Fri Aug 3 07:07
              Well, according to the report I quoted above, the Osborns did not believe Hauptmann was the writer. That agrees with Trendley's position. Therefore, saying its not true doesn't make that true. I only ... more
              • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Fri Aug 3 11:55
                I do not know what the investigators had to laugh about. According to Hauptmann and Scaduto they had just spent the whole night telling Hauptmann how to spell words and teaching him how to write... more
                • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Sat Aug 4 08:26
                  You are arguing both sides of the stick. What you should be saying is that you don't like that they were amused by the fact that "Experts" needed to hear the ransom was discovered before their... more
                  • handwriting identificationRichard Sloan, Sun Aug 5 10:19
                    I recall that the Osbornes (father & son) were originally divided about whether or not Bruno wrote the ransom notes. Son didn't agree with dad that he had written them, until there was more evidence... more
                    • Re: handwriting identificationJoe, Sun Aug 5 13:37
                      It's hard to argue with the totality of the handwriting evidence against Hauptmann from such a battery of QDE's overall. For the layman, I just shake my head at the obvious similarities between the... more
                    • it's a small world Richard Sloan, Sun Aug 5 10:24
                      Richard Bocker, the contractor we use to work on projects in our house just told me that his grandfather, Albert Bocker, owned the nursery DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM the Bergen Greenhouse... more
                  • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Sat Aug 4 11:00
                    I do not care whether or not law enforcement was amused by the Osborns. I do know that a conclusion about a handwriting has to be proven in court. An examiner does this with handwriting exhibits,... more
                    • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Sat Aug 4 11:21
                      Thanks for the offer but I don't need you to look into it for me since I've already done it for both. I am telling you it occurred, and it contradicts your position. Unlike some of the other internet ... more
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