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Michael 5260
Re: My research must be flawed
Thu Aug 2, 2018 10:29
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The first person the investigators called was Albert S. Osborn. He was in bed with a bad cold so he advised the investigators to call his son. They did.

Albert D. Osborn agreed to met the police at his office. To me, this was mistake number one. There was no strong reason to go out in the middle of the night to examine handwritings. Hauptmann was in the country illegally so immigration could have held him just about as long as they liked. What's the rush.

You do not want to have heavy breathing police officers standing out in the hallway waiting for you to give a handwriting opinion. There was no "time is of the essence" about the handwriting examination at this point.

Albert D.'s second mistake was opening his mouth. His father warned about this in his book "Questioned Documents":

1. Avoid, in giving an opinion, being influenced in any way by those who present the problem. (you do not want cops standing around waiting)

2. Avoid being led into giving an unwilling or partial opinion.

3. Avoid a hasty conclusion, and especially an offhand, or "sidewalk" opinion.

4. Avoid, as a rule, the giving of an oral, instead of a written, report that later may be misinterpreted or exaggerated in a report to others.

5. Avoid, if possible, an "eleventh hour" examination, with no time for review and re-examination.

There wasn't any kind of a race between finding ransom money in Hauptmann's garage and identifying Hauptmann as the writer of the ransom notes. They have nothing to do with each other. Just because ransom money was found does not eo ipso make Hauptmann the writer of the Lindbergh ransom notes. Since just about everyone had the idea of a kidnap gang stuck in their heads there was a possibility of someone else, other than Hauptmann, being the writer. Albert S. Osborn was aware of this possibility. He also warned:

* Avoid influence on opinion of either friendship, or antipathy, or any matters or influences of any kind outside of the actual document itself.

Albert D. Osborn should have stayed in bed.

  • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Thu Aug 2 07:28
    He then hung up the receiver and advised those present, including the Division Agents previously named: "It doesn't look so good. He says that when he first looked at the specimens he thought they... more
    • Re: My research must be flawed — Michael 5260, Thu Aug 2 10:29
      • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Thu Aug 2 12:08
        Okay. So what I am seeing is that the Osborns both agreed with Trendley before they disagreed with him. Yet when it comes to Trendley all I see from you is FANGS and CLAWS. When it comes to the... more
        • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Thu Aug 2 14:20
          Albert S. Osborn did not agree with John Trendley. Saying so does not make it so. You bet it's fangs and claws with John Trendley. Someone like him is very dangerous to the legal profession. This is... more
          • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Fri Aug 3 07:07
            Well, according to the report I quoted above, the Osborns did not believe Hauptmann was the writer. That agrees with Trendley's position. Therefore, saying its not true doesn't make that true. I only ... more
            • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Fri Aug 3 11:55
              I do not know what the investigators had to laugh about. According to Hauptmann and Scaduto they had just spent the whole night telling Hauptmann how to spell words and teaching him how to write... more
              • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Sat Aug 4 08:26
                You are arguing both sides of the stick. What you should be saying is that you don't like that they were amused by the fact that "Experts" needed to hear the ransom was discovered before their... more
                • handwriting identificationRichard Sloan, Sun Aug 5 10:19
                  I recall that the Osbornes (father & son) were originally divided about whether or not Bruno wrote the ransom notes. Son didn't agree with dad that he had written them, until there was more evidence... more
                  • Re: handwriting identificationJoe, Sun Aug 5 13:37
                    It's hard to argue with the totality of the handwriting evidence against Hauptmann from such a battery of QDE's overall. For the layman, I just shake my head at the obvious similarities between the... more
                    • handwritingRichard Sloan, Sun Aug 5 22:49
                      Yes, his writing on letters he wrote from jail are a "dead" give away!He DONE WROTE DEM NOTES.
                  • it's a small world Richard Sloan, Sun Aug 5 10:24
                    Richard Bocker, the contractor we use to work on projects in our house just told me that his grandfather, Albert Bocker, owned the nursery DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM the Bergen Greenhouse... more
                • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Sat Aug 4 11:00
                  I do not care whether or not law enforcement was amused by the Osborns. I do know that a conclusion about a handwriting has to be proven in court. An examiner does this with handwriting exhibits,... more
                  • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Sat Aug 4 11:21
                    Thanks for the offer but I don't need you to look into it for me since I've already done it for both. I am telling you it occurred, and it contradicts your position. Unlike some of the other internet ... more
                    • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Sat Aug 4 15:46
                      If you have already looked into it you can answer the questions. So, crank up some of that secret, it seems to be secret, archival information you have and answer the questions. No, I don't know of... more
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