Michael 5260
Re: My research must be flawed
Thu Aug 2, 2018 14:20

Albert S. Osborn did not agree with John Trendley. Saying so does not make it so.

You bet it's fangs and claws with John Trendley. Someone like him is very dangerous to the legal profession. This is the hired gun that others are accused of being. Trendley knew there are always two sides in a legal case and he was willing to take any side that would use him.

It was Trendley's opinion that Fisch wrote the ransom notes yet when he was in Flemingtion all he had to say was that he looked at Fisch's writing. Reilly probably advised him not to utter testimony about Fisch being the writer of the ransom notes. Trendley would have been eaten alive on the witness stand if he had done so and Reilly knew it.

It isn't selective observation. It's just empirical observation of what sits there right in front of everyone's eyes for over eighty years.

What is your definition of a true science? When you move beyond chemistry what is a true science. All handwriting identification, analysis, comparison, and evaluation follows proven procedures when seeking answers. The procedures are called, collectively, the "scientific method".

"A method of research in which a problem is identified, relevant data are gathered, a hypothesis is formulated from the data, and the hypothesis is empirically tested".

As it applies to handwriting identification:

1. Pose a question
2. Collect evidence
3. Hypothesize
4. Deduce its implications
5. Accept,reject, or modify the hypothesis

It has nothing to do with hunches, guesses, or having a feeling. It isn't "Gee it looks like Rollo's handwriting, Rollo must have written it". Or, "Gee it looks different from Rollo's handwriting, Rollo must not have written it".

  • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Thu Aug 2 12:08
    Okay. So what I am seeing is that the Osborns both agreed with Trendley before they disagreed with him. Yet when it comes to Trendley all I see from you is FANGS and CLAWS. When it comes to the... more
    • Re: My research must be flawed — Michael 5260, Thu Aug 2 14:20
      • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Fri Aug 3 07:07
        Well, according to the report I quoted above, the Osborns did not believe Hauptmann was the writer. That agrees with Trendley's position. Therefore, saying its not true doesn't make that true. I only ... more
        • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Fri Aug 3 11:55
          I do not know what the investigators had to laugh about. According to Hauptmann and Scaduto they had just spent the whole night telling Hauptmann how to spell words and teaching him how to write... more
          • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Sat Aug 4 08:26
            You are arguing both sides of the stick. What you should be saying is that you don't like that they were amused by the fact that "Experts" needed to hear the ransom was discovered before their... more
            • handwriting identificationRichard Sloan, Sun Aug 5 10:19
              I recall that the Osbornes (father & son) were originally divided about whether or not Bruno wrote the ransom notes. Son didn't agree with dad that he had written them, until there was more evidence... more
              • Re: handwriting identificationJoe, Sun Aug 5 13:37
                It's hard to argue with the totality of the handwriting evidence against Hauptmann from such a battery of QDE's overall. For the layman, I just shake my head at the obvious similarities between the... more
                • handwritingRichard Sloan, Sun Aug 5 22:49
                  Yes, his writing on letters he wrote from jail are a "dead" give away!He DONE WROTE DEM NOTES.
              • it's a small world Richard Sloan, Sun Aug 5 10:24
                Richard Bocker, the contractor we use to work on projects in our house just told me that his grandfather, Albert Bocker, owned the nursery DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM the Bergen Greenhouse... more
            • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Sat Aug 4 11:00
              I do not care whether or not law enforcement was amused by the Osborns. I do know that a conclusion about a handwriting has to be proven in court. An examiner does this with handwriting exhibits,... more
              • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Sat Aug 4 11:21
                Thanks for the offer but I don't need you to look into it for me since I've already done it for both. I am telling you it occurred, and it contradicts your position. Unlike some of the other internet ... more
                • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Sat Aug 4 15:46
                  If you have already looked into it you can answer the questions. So, crank up some of that secret, it seems to be secret, archival information you have and answer the questions. No, I don't know of... more
                  • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Sun Aug 5 09:01
                    Of course I could answer them as could many others here on THIS Board. Isn't it amazing that we have a whole group of "Experts" over on the Yahoo site that cannot? Why is that I wonder? That insult... more
                    • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Sun Aug 5 10:44
                      Okay. If there are many others on this board, I only need one person, that can answer my two questions I look forward to hearing their forthcoming answers. The questions are: * What was the name and... more
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