Re: My research must be flawed
Fri Aug 3, 2018 07:07

Well, according to the report I quoted above, the Osborns did not believe Hauptmann was the writer. That agrees with Trendley's position. Therefore, saying its not true doesn't make that true. I only said that based upon a report written by the LE who were there. Obviously I was not. But I also believed they laughed about their change of heart once the ransom was discovered. According to you I am wrong about that too.

But according to the report I'm right.

My definition of a true science is one that is reliable. While there is some degree of science to this, there is also too much guess-work involved for me to consider it reliable to the point where if an "Expert" says something it actually would be true. It might not be and that's a serious problem. Just look at the Ramsey case. Either she wrote that note or she didn't. YET - there are "Experts" who say "no," and there are "Experts" who say "yes." Now take a look at a real science like Ballistics. Unlike handwriting analysis, that science will actually yield solid proof of something.

As far as "Experts" in this field goes... My favorite is Trendley. Why? Because he wasn't liked by those in his field. Why? Because he was such a good forger he would prepare exhibits in his own hand which Attorneys he worked for would use to get other "Experts" to say were authentic. So in essence he was debunking those in his own field. So of course he wasn't on their good side.

  • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Thu Aug 2 14:20
    Albert S. Osborn did not agree with John Trendley. Saying so does not make it so. You bet it's fangs and claws with John Trendley. Someone like him is very dangerous to the legal profession. This is... more
    • Re: My research must be flawed — Michael, Fri Aug 3 07:07
      • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Fri Aug 3 11:55
        I do not know what the investigators had to laugh about. According to Hauptmann and Scaduto they had just spent the whole night telling Hauptmann how to spell words and teaching him how to write... more
        • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Sat Aug 4 08:26
          You are arguing both sides of the stick. What you should be saying is that you don't like that they were amused by the fact that "Experts" needed to hear the ransom was discovered before their... more
          • handwriting identificationRichard Sloan, Sun Aug 5 10:19
            I recall that the Osbornes (father & son) were originally divided about whether or not Bruno wrote the ransom notes. Son didn't agree with dad that he had written them, until there was more evidence... more
            • Re: handwriting identificationJoe, Sun Aug 5 13:37
              It's hard to argue with the totality of the handwriting evidence against Hauptmann from such a battery of QDE's overall. For the layman, I just shake my head at the obvious similarities between the... more
              • handwritingRichard Sloan, Sun Aug 5 22:49
                Yes, his writing on letters he wrote from jail are a "dead" give away!He DONE WROTE DEM NOTES.
            • it's a small world Richard Sloan, Sun Aug 5 10:24
              Richard Bocker, the contractor we use to work on projects in our house just told me that his grandfather, Albert Bocker, owned the nursery DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM the Bergen Greenhouse... more
          • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Sat Aug 4 11:00
            I do not care whether or not law enforcement was amused by the Osborns. I do know that a conclusion about a handwriting has to be proven in court. An examiner does this with handwriting exhibits,... more
            • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Sat Aug 4 11:21
              Thanks for the offer but I don't need you to look into it for me since I've already done it for both. I am telling you it occurred, and it contradicts your position. Unlike some of the other internet ... more
              • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Sat Aug 4 15:46
                If you have already looked into it you can answer the questions. So, crank up some of that secret, it seems to be secret, archival information you have and answer the questions. No, I don't know of... more
                • Re: My research must be flawedMichael, Sun Aug 5 09:01
                  Of course I could answer them as could many others here on THIS Board. Isn't it amazing that we have a whole group of "Experts" over on the Yahoo site that cannot? Why is that I wonder? That insult... more
                  • Re: My research must be flawedMichael 5260, Sun Aug 5 10:44
                    Okay. If there are many others on this board, I only need one person, that can answer my two questions I look forward to hearing their forthcoming answers. The questions are: * What was the name and... more
                    • Re: My research must be flawedAnonymous, Sun Aug 5 13:46
                      As to question number 2: Bert Farrar, QDE, U.S. Treasury Dept. He did believe that Hauptmann wrote the notes, but had a "falling out" with the State Police in 1932. He was subpoenaed to the Hauptmann ... more
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