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Michael 5260 for Michael
Bert Farrar
Mon Aug 6, 2018 09:49

Information on Bert Farrar is very thin. This is what I found.

He is mentioned as Bert Farrar, Bert C. Farrar, and C. C. Farrar. I think the C. C. Farrar may be typographical error.

Farrar was born in 1873 in Michigan and died in 1960 in California at 86. I found this on "Find a Grave" and the name on the tombstone is Bert C. Farrar. This may or may not be the particular Bert Farrar we are investigating.

C. C. Farrar is mentioned in "Introduction to Handwriting Examination and Identification" by Bradford and Bradford on page 23:

"To confront this battery of experts,(the eight experts for the defense) the prosecution decided to reserve its final four examiners for rebuttal testimony. They were C. C. Farrar, chief handwriting expert for the Treasury Department, Joseph Schulfhofer, German expert from Birmingham, Alabama, J. Vreeland Haring; and his son, J. Howard Haring".

As to the "falling out" that Farrar had with the state police in 1932. I don't know what that was about but the 1932 date is significant. In 1932 Farrar could not have examined Hauptmann's handwriting specimens. Hauptmann was not arrested until September 1934 so there were no Hauptmann handwritings for Farrar to examine in 1932.

If Farrar had threatened to "flip" to the defense side in 1934 there would have been dire consequences for him. There would have been Farrar's written report that was submitted with his findings and conclusion that Hauptmann was the writer of the Lindbergh ransom notes. He would have been legally crucified with his written handwriting report and his career with the Treasury Department would have abruptly ended. I don't believe a person will commit professional suicide over some kind of slight or falling out with a law enforcement agency.

    • two pointsRichard Sloan, Tue Aug 7 14:24
      Two thoughts occ'd to me this a.m. about the case. 1. There's a flimsy theory that the kidnapper(s) and the extortionist(s) were not at all connected to ea. other. However, the person who hand... more
      • Re: two pointsJoe, Wed Aug 8 07:50
        Condon wanted to see the baby before delivery of the money, but he was overruled by Lindbergh through Breckinridge.
        • money for babyRichard Sloan, Wed Aug 8 09:35
          I never read that CAL overruled JFC through Breckkinridge. Since Breck wasn't there, this musta been decided upon back at the COndon house. If I recall correctly, CJ must have told JFC to return in a ... more
          • Re: money for babyJoe, Wed Aug 8 10:18
            It was decided upon before CAL and JFC left for St. Raymond's. After they met in the cemetery, JFC claimed he kept on CJ to take him to the child before the money and CJ refused. Condon then asked... more
            • CAL on getting a noteRichard Sloan, Wed Aug 8 11:47
              CAL was his own worst enemy. Had the cops been allowed near the cemetery, they could have at the very least secretly followed CJ without his knowledge. But maybe that was easier said than done. And... more
              • Re: CAL on getting a noteJoe, Wed Aug 8 13:01
                It seems a pretty good bet there was a lookout at both cemetery meeting locations. I believe Lindbergh genuinely felt if he did everything he was told, his son would be returned to him unharmed. That ... more
    • Re: Bert FarrarMichael, Tue Aug 7 07:43
      His name is misspelled all over the place Script. I've even seen it as "Farrer" too so when you look closer at him be sure to try all of these spellings. Like I said below, the issues extended into... more
      • Re: Bert FarrarMichael 5260, Tue Aug 7 14:47
        Something had to have happened for the prosecution to have been afraid that Farrar might change sides. If they had a fear of that happening in 1932, before there was any trial, they would have... more
        • Re: Bert FarrarMichael, Wed Aug 8 08:56
          Script, Be careful letting your mind wander. It was a pretty simple thing. I don't know, maybe I am so used to seeing this stuff (as it concerns this case) to the point that I am now desensitized to... more
          • Re: Bert FarrarMichael 5260, Wed Aug 8 10:27
            You are correct about the trial being a play on a stage. All hi-profile trials have a tendency to be that way. There is always the element of "theater" involved. I think this comes about because a... more
            • Re: Bert FarrarAnonymous, Wed Aug 8 13:21
              Farrar wanted to testify (if nothing else it would look great on his C.V. for future trials). Problem was that at this point, Wilentz did not trust what he would ultimately say on the stand. To solve ... more
              • david wilentz, may his name live in infamybob mills for anonymous and forum, Thu Aug 9 18:49
                Wilentz played a fast one on everybody. A permanent stain on New Jersey justice.
                • Re: david wilentz, may his name live in infamysteve for bob, Fri Aug 10 11:36
                  don't forget he was tripping over evidence as somebody once said. don't blame wilentz for hauptmanns bad showing on the stand.
                  • wilentzbob mills for steve romeo and forum, Fri Aug 10 18:58
                    Steve, Hauptmann wasn't required to take the stand in his own defense. He did so voluntarily. If the trial were held today, Wilentz would have been scolded by the judge for misconduct. He might have... more
                  • There's no question Wilentz took liberties as a prosecutor, but Hauptmann set himself up for everything he got by not coming clean.
                • And the irony is that we probably never would have heard of David Wilentz, had it not been for a mentally-ill German carpenter from the Bronx.
                  • WilentzJack, Sun Sep 2 02:49
                    Right, but Wilentz was really just doing his job, what he's supposed to be doing every day. I'd say he did it pretty well.
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