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Michael
Re: David Bari
Sun Aug 19, 2018 13:20
2001:558:6027:18:501a:3d7e:f6e0:52ef

I don't want to get into a back and forth so I'll say my last about Malone in this post. Yes, he was a Penman. He was also an Artist. And lastly, he was a Handwriting Expert who was qualified as one by the Courts and testified as one countless times.

He was regarded by some as among the best, and in fact in the Baltimore/D.C. area was called the best. I'm sure his identifying Holt's handwriting was a big reason for that fame.

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84026749/1915-07-07/ed-1/seq-4.pdf

In 1934 Malone said Myers was, by that time, qualified to examine questioned documents as an Expert.

I do understand the difference between a handwriting expert and graphologist. Frankly, I've never placed ANY stock in graphology and look at it more like fortune telling.

FYI, I've seen people who claim to be BOTH a Graphologist AND a Handwriting Expert. Apparently nowadays there are schools for both.




  • Re: David BariMichael 5260, Sun Aug 19 11:33
    It's okay for us to disagree about what Osborn would have done if loads of Lindbergh ransom had been found with David Bari. Since that did not happen the issue is moot. I just wanted to point out... more
    • Re: David Bari — Michael, Sun Aug 19 13:20
      • Re: David BariMichael 5260, Sun Aug 19 16:52
        In the early days it wasn't difficult to be qualified by the courts as an expert witness on handwriting. This left the door wide open for people that had no qualifications at all to testify in court... more
        • Re: David BariMichael , Mon Aug 20 08:45
          Do you know how many "Experts" would eventually claim to believe Fisch wrote the notes - and who they were?
          • FIschRichard Sloan, Tue Aug 21 10:10
            Wish we had more samples of Fisch's handwriting.
            • Re: FIschMichael For Richard, Tue Aug 21 11:29
              Try this sample up close by clicking the magnifier: https://i.imgur.com/OAcSWkJ.jpg
              • Michael for Richard: FischTanialee , Sat Sep 8 19:28
                My goodness I've been looking for samples of Fisch's writing ever since I joined this forum,years ago. How you obtained it, well I don't know but kudos to you. I find it a fascinating piece of... more
          • Re: David BariMichael 5260, Mon Aug 20 17:28
            Trendley was supposed to have told his family that he was convinced that Fisch wrote the ransom notes. That is what his family supposedly told reporters that were clamoring around Trendley's house. I ... more
          • Re: David BariAnonymous, Mon Aug 20 15:20
            Braunlich, Trendley, Goodspeed and Julia Farr who all examined the notes on 1/12/1935 under State Police guard in a Hotel in Trenton, N.J.
            • Re: David BariMichael For Anonymous, Tue Aug 21 12:03
              While I know that Braunlich and Goodspeed, both Handwriting Experts, believed the letters were altered and were prepared to testify that Hauptmann did not write the notes ... I've never seen where... more
              • Re: David BariAnonymous, Tue Aug 21 13:32
                Michael, An April 4, 1977 N.Y. Times article by Peter Kihss about an interview with then 79 year old Hilda Zaenglein Braunlich in Clearwater, Florida discusses her views on the Hauptmann handwriting. ... more
                • FIsh handwriting vs. Bruno'sRichard Sloan, Wed Aug 22 09:51
                  I see a few similalrities betw. Fisch's "s" when it's at the end of a word, but I would think that is common. He appears to have been fluent in English.Does anyone know for a fact that he spoke "mit... more
                  • Re: FIsh handwriting vs. Bruno'sMichael, Thu Aug 23 08:19
                    I've read report after report after report. It does look different, and there have been several explanations. The most obvious is that it was written by a different hand. It was Osborn, I believe,... more
                • Re: David BariMichael, Wed Aug 22 07:27
                  I have this article but thanks for pointing it out nevertheless. She does appear to say in the last paragraph he could have been the writer. Much of this article agrees with her letter to Gov. Byrne... more
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