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steve romeo
Thu Sep 27, 2018 09:56

shuman also wrote into the editor of the hunterdon democrat march 25 1993 and told the same story because the Lindbergh did it book came out. fisher was his lawyer from the md 40s to 1960 when fisher died. also fisher told newspaper reporters at the time 1935 that hauptman was innocent but he was hauptmans lawyer at the time he wouldn't say guilty as hell at that time.

  • Hauptmann's GuiltJoe, Sun Sep 23 18:51
    From Business Week 1977, comes this letter to the Editor from Don Shuman, which perhaps may answer the question as to whether the above was ever stated or not. I believe this is the same Don Shuman... more
    • shuman — steve romeo, Thu Sep 27 09:56
      • Re: shumanJoe, Fri Sep 28 14:23
        Thanks Steve, it sounds like Shuman simply wanted to keep the record straight amidst more popular revisionist nonsense.
    • Re: Hauptmann's GuiltAnonymous, Mon Sep 24 13:32
      This quote by Fisher is an excellent find. Unless one chooses to believe that Shuman lied, this is just another nail in Hauptmann's guilty coffin. From my experiences, criminal defense attorneys... more
      • Re: Hauptmann's GuiltMichael, Tue Sep 25 09:13
        This sort of comment baffles me. There are literally thousands of source material documents for what Fisher actually believed. There's documentation about what Fisher did after the execution and when ... more
        • MoreMichael, Tue Sep 25 09:44
          Here's another legitimate source to exemplify what Fisher actually believed: To this day he believes that Hauptmann could not possibly have stolen the baby without associates. This comes from an... more
          • Re: MoreJoe, Wed Sep 26 09:16
            Remember that Hauptmann professed his complete innocence of any involvement in the crime to the same Lloyd Fisher. For Fisher to have told George Hawke that Hauptmann was guilty but believed he had... more
            • Re: MoreMichael 5260, Wed Sep 26 10:57
              Fisher may have believed Hauptmann was innocent at the very beginning but as Fisher found himself wading in incriminating evidence up to his armpits he had his personal legal epiphany. What Fisher... more
              • Re: MoreMichael, Thu Sep 27 08:02
                You speak as if you were actually walking in his shoes. The man had more access and the most amount of information concerning Hauptmann than anyone else. First thing is that his Lawyers were bound by ... more
                • Re: MoreMichael 5260, Thu Sep 27 13:55
                  Three times this week I have heard John H. Wigmore quoted by attorneys: "Cross-examination is the greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth." Wigmore was an American jurist and... more
                  • Re: MoreMichael, Thu Sep 27 14:19
                    If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it - does it make a sound? If the answer is yes, then how in the hell can anyone cross examine facts they aren't aware of? So what you mean to ... more
                    • Re: MoreMichael 5260, Thu Sep 27 16:19
                      Our discussions have been about the evidence and the trial of Bruno Richard Hauptmann That is the focus. At least I think that is the focus. Curtis Transcripts, Means Transcripts, and Parker... more
            • Re: MoreMichael, Wed Sep 26 10:10
              No it doesn't because it creates an assumption. From other documented sources we know that Fisher believed the following: 1. Hauptmann had involvement. 2. Hauptmann knew more. 3. Others were... more
              • Re: MoreJoe, Wed Sep 26 11:00
                You're splitting hairs here as it pertains to the bottom line, Michael. Does "Guilty as hell" imply to you that Hauptmann was believed to be a Lone Wolf? Most people would probably consider... more
                • Re: MoreMichael, Thu Sep 27 07:49
                  You might see it that way Joe but in the context of what he actually believed the single phrase "guilty as hell" is misleading when considering how this case has been perceived from one side or the... more
                  • Re: MoreJoe, Sat Sep 29 07:17
                    Perhaps you would have preferred Fisher had allegedly said something about one of the household having been involved.. would that have given the statement more credibility? This principle seems to... more
                    • Re: MoreMichael, Sat Sep 29 08:15
                      Perhaps what? This doesn't make any sense Joe. I've said all things must be considered. Once that's done then it is what it is. Shuman's account is not clear because no one asked him questions about... more
    • QuiteJack, Mon Sep 24 06:25
      Thanks for posting that Joe. I wonder where I read that same thing?
      • Quite Guilty as HellJoe for Jack, Mon Sep 24 07:27
        Fisher would have had to have been brain-dead not to see the truth, even while he was defending Hauptmann. Anyway, it's refreshing to hear this kind of transparency. Interesting how this very... more
        • QuoteJack, Mon Sep 24 16:06
          Yes - that quote - I knew that I had read it, but couldn't place where. Was after K and S but knew it wasn't there. Was a deciding factor for me and should for anyone, especially sitting on the... more
        • Quote.Jack, Mon Sep 24 08:05
          Amen. Probably typical of many lawyer deals. My lawyer used to say, "well, that's your story - don't forget it."
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