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Michael 5260 for Joe
Re: Boad Nelly note spelling
Fri Jan 11, 2019 14:35
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Hauptmann's handwriting is a combination of English and German handwriting styles. You can think of it as a hybrid form of cursive writing.

When a person learns to read and write in a foreign country(Germany) and then learns to read and write in a different language (English), the first language they learned to write will have an influence on the handwriting of the second language. Depending on the age of the writer when they learn to write in the second language some characteristics of the first language they learned to write will be present in their handwriting of the second language. Some of these foreign handwriting features(first learned) may remain in a person's handwriting until their death. This is why handwriting examiners knew, without any suspects at the time, the writer of the Lindbergh ransom notes was probably German.

Good point about the German-English dictionary. Hauptmann thought in German and had to transpose mentally into English as he was writing the ransom notes. If there was a word in German that he wanted to write in English he would look it up in his dictionary. There were probably two or three words offered in English that he had to choose from in the dictionary translation. He selected one and wrote it.

One time down at the archives I asked Mark about Hauptmann's dictionary or dictionaries. As far as Mark knows nothing is at the archives or he just hasn't come across anything yet. It would be nice to find the dictionary Hauptmann referred to while writing the ransom notes. A dictionary that was published close in time to 1932. There are a couple of things I would like to examine.

I think there are a couple of reasons why Hauptmann didn't had over the Boad Nelly note to Condon immediately. First, he wasn't about to hand over the note without being positive he had the ransom money. He may have told Condon that he was trusted but I doubt Hauptmann trusted anyone or anything while in the midst of the ransom negotiations. The "ransom drop" is always the most dangerous moment in a kidnapping and still is. Secondly, he wanted to keep an eye on Condon. During the thirteen minutes Condon left and
returned with the money Hauptmann was probably watching Condon and checking the street from the same hiding place he used before calling out and appearing to Condon.

Notice how Hauptmann used the same technique at both cemeteries during ransom negotiations. Condon is called and told where to go and find a note. He finds the note and follows the directions. Both times Hauptmann does not appear until he is good and ready and satisfied there are no police or anything suspicious going on out in the street. With this method who needs a lookout.

Joe, here is some solid information about dictation.

"It is often possible to determine whether a letter has been written from dictation. When writing from dictation, unless both the writer and the person who is dictating are experienced in this work, it is difficult to match the speed of dictation with that of the writing. This tends to destroy any rhythm the writing may normally have. Words are left out or sometimes repeated, as the writer, who is usually struggling to keep up with the dictation, loses all sense of what is being written down, because his attention is concentrated on the mechanical process of transferring to paper what is being dictated. Punctuation and arrangement suffer badly, and even the most experienced writer is apt to split a long sentence in the middle so that neither portion by itself makes sense. The presence of this last error is an almost certain indication that the matter is dictated, for it would hardly occur if the writer were fully aware of the sense of what was being written down."
Suspect Documents Wilson R.Harrison, p.486

I don't see any indications of dictation in the Boad Nelly ransom note. I do see evidence of dictation in Hauptmann's request writings. This is no surprise since the writings were orally read to Hauptmann and he was listening while writing. It's there for anyone to see on their own.


  • Re: Boad Nelly note spellingJoe for Michael 5260, Fri Jan 11 08:05
    Great logical post here Michael, and it's been quite evident to me over the years that Hauptmann's choice of letters used to construct a word, was clearly what I'd term "random happenstance." It... more
    • Re: Boad Nelly note spelling — Michael 5260 for Joe, Fri Jan 11 14:35
      • Re: Boad Nelly note spellingJoe for Michael 5260, Sat Jan 12 13:14
        Michael, certainly CJ would not have handed over any note until the ransom money was turned over. That's a given. Remember though that CJ's ransom note number eight, (number nine if you include the... more
        • Re: Boad Nelly note spellingMichael 5260 for Joe, Sun Jan 13 11:01
          Good observation about the ransom note with, "After 8 houers you gete the Adr; Hauptmann first mentions the same thing in the third ransom note "But befor telling you the Adr. a delay of 8 houers... more
          • Re: Boad Nelly note spellingJoe for Michael 5260, Sun Jan 13 12:43
            Michael, plans change when their weaknesses are realized, and within the planner's buildup to the ransom exchange, this is what appears to have happened. CJ was a very shrewd negotiator. Ransom note... more
            • Re: Boad Nelly note spellingMichael 5260 for Joe, Sun Jan 13 22:07
              Joe, in the fifth ransom note, reverse side, we have the first mention of the 8 hour waiting period, "after 8 houers we have the money received we will notify you where to find the baby." This was... more
              • Re: Boad Nelly note spellingJoe for Michael 5260, Tue Jan 15 18:52
                Michael, would it be possible to determine if the Boad Nelly note was written on the same type of paper as the rest of the ransom notes?
                • Re: Boad Nelly note spellingMichael 5260 for Joe, Wed Jan 16 09:19
                  Yes. By using the same method of comparison used to analyze the Nursery note and the March 4 ransom note.
                  • Re: Boad Nelly note spellingJoe for Michael 5260, Wed Jan 16 11:43
                    Do you know if the Boad Nelly note was written on the same writing paper (carried by F.W. Woolworth's) as the rest of the notes? When all is said and done, it seems feasible that Hauptmann could have ... more
                    • Re: Boad Nelly note spellingMichael 5260 for Joe, Wed Jan 16 14:44
                      I haven't compared the Boad Nelly note the to directional note left near the Bergen Greenhouse. This comparison would provide a quick answer. They did find the same kind of stationery in Hauptmann's... more
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