Joe for Michael
Re: Deciphering the Mersman Table
Thu Apr 11, 2019 13:26
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Michael, I understand that the holes actually line up although I'd expect there to be a bit of an accuracy factor here, considering the holes in the table brace are larger than those in the ransom notes. I really don't think it would be helpful to me to actually see this effect live, as I believe the accounts of those who claim this and what my eyes tell me through what appear to be accurate photographs.

Aside from the German script, the majority of evidence here is physical and circumstantial in nature. Again, I don't have to visit the NJSP archives to recognize that this table brace could not possibly have been used as a physical template for the holes in the ransom notes, and I've stated sound reasons for that in a previous message to this thread. I'm afraid the very best it can represent is some kind of reference to the hole spacing itself. But how does one then reconcile the fact that all documentation puts the manufacture of this table brace somewhere around 1940, (based on its sale to Elmer Bolliard of that year) many miles from the Bronx and many years after the kidnapping?

If we could somehow determine who within the production sequence for this table (Mersman factory and possibly the Watchung store) was responsible for drilling table brace holes, we'd have a very solid lead on someone's real motive.

  • Re: Deciphering the Mersman TableMichael, Wed Apr 10 14:53
    Joe - My point was a visit to the Museum was necessary before this show. Without seeing the holes lining up its not as impactful and one has to rely on others for their description of what they saw.... more
    • Re: Deciphering the Mersman Table — Joe for Michael, Thu Apr 11 13:26
      • Re: Deciphering the Mersman TableMichael For Joe, Fri Apr 12 10:12
        I'd say you would have needed to see it Joe but now that the show has aired its less of a necessity. Yes the holes in the table are "bigger." I've seen the demonstration twice and the holes in the... more
        • dem holesRichard E Sloan, Mon Apr 15 10:01
          At first I was thinking that it doesn't matter that the table holes are bigger than those in the ransom notes. It was just a template. Cut nails, which I think we all tend to agree were used to punch ... more
          • one mo thing about dem holesRichard E Sloan, Mon Apr 15 10:03
            Anther method, using a simpler template than the table, would be to simply make a dot with a sharp pencil where "dead center" was, and then insert the nail as I described.
            • Falzini's blogRichard E Sloan, Mon Apr 15 10:25
              Mark's blog, "Archival Ramblings," for Sept.9, 2008, has the best description of the ransom notes. Pages 4, 5,6,7, and 8 deal specifically with the holes.
        • Re: Deciphering the Mersman TableJoe for Michael, Sun Apr 14 11:10
          Michael, I do understand the physics, optics and the alignment entirely and have from the beginning. But again, this is not something I would travel 500 miles for, so it will have to wait until I'm... more
          • Re: Deciphering the Mersman TableMichael For Joe, Sun Apr 14 11:43
            I understand about the distance Joe. I am not criticizing anyone for not being able to see it I am just saying that it should probably be done before completely writing it off. But if you saw the... more
            • Re: Deciphering the Mersman TableJoe for Michael, Sun Apr 14 16:19
              I understand and respect your opinions Michael, but I would heartily question your claim that you "don't know anyone that has ever seen it demonstrated who said it could NOT be the template." No one... more
              • Re: Deciphering the Mersman TableMichael For Joe, Mon Apr 15 09:07
                I don't know any Joe. Of course there could be someone who has been to the Archives to examine this piece who I don't know about. I am not saying I know about everyone, but I believe the number of... more
                • Re: Deciphering the Mersman TableJoe for Michael, Mon Apr 15 13:06
                  Michael, reading your reply, all I can say is you've somehow managed to wrap this enigma into much more of a riddle than it needs to be in. Of course, I'm sure you feel the same way about my... more
                  • Re: Deciphering the Mersman TableMichael For Joe, Tue Apr 16 10:29
                    No truce necessary. It's just a difference of perspective Joe. I don't feel any type of way about yours because I am uncertain. As I've said above - you could be right. My only opposition is that I... more
                    • Re: Deciphering the Mersman TableJoe for Michael, Sat Apr 20 08:19
                      Yes, certainly a difference in perspective. Just to be clear, my own conclusions to date are not based upon anyone else's conclusion, but from the table brace's "chain of custody" evidence and the... more
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