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Tom B.
Van Cleef and Arpels
Tue Oct 3, 2017 2:07pm

No direct relationship.

  • Van Cleef & ArpelsJoan, Mon Oct 2 9:06am
    Hi there! Iím so glad that I finally managed to post here. I missed that. I started high school, with super weird new teachers. But hey, good news! Finally, our English teacher, you know, I think,... more
    • Van Cleef and Arpels — Tom B., Tue Oct 3 2:07pm
      • Tom's correct, Ioana...DCG, Thu Oct 5 9:19am
        ...I've got the Van Cleef family tree in my files (but not in front of me at the moment), and I remember trying to trace just such a connection, once and for all. As I recall, Alfred Van Cleef... more
      • "van" means "from"Maggie, Tue Oct 3 2:19pm
        So everybody hailing from a certain location at a certain time in history (when the Dutch fixed their surnames that is) can have the location in their surname. It is like the -sen (son of...) with... more
        • Thanks a lot, dear Maggie!Joan, Tue Oct 3 9:23pm
          Now I understood. I never thought about Netherlands when I was reading this name. Or about Germany. Very interesting and useful information. Thank you. And thank you, Iím glad that you like my real... more
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