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Maggie
That may well be the case...
Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:41am

... plus some adittional insecurity as you never know how long fame lasts and whether you will manage to keep up your lifestyle (or eating and heating, as a matter of fact) for the years to come. And Lee experienced some of that, too.

I suppose there is very little you can do if fate and moguls turn against you, much less than an entrepeneur who can change the stuff he is working on, I suppose. And all the time you are in the public eye and have to work on your reputation. And people KNOW that. At least to me, that would be stressful.

BTW, what would be the male actors equivalent to the actresses director's couch? Just being curious....

  • suicides in the acting professionDoc, Mon Oct 23 7:33am
    I often wondered if the numbers were high among professional actors because of an identity crisis. I believe that many in the profession take solace in continually pretending to be somebody else, as... more
    • Agree 100%, Doc...DCG, Mon Oct 23 10:38am
      ...all the evidence I've gathered thus far suggest Lee approached acting as a Job -- altho once he gained some success at it, he made serious efforts to improve himself and learn the craft. That's... more
    • That may well be the case... — Maggie, Mon Oct 23 9:41am
      • Male equivalent of Director's CouchDCG, Mon Oct 23 9:59pm
        There are many factors that led to LVC's "decline" in "Fame"...too many to detail in this post, alas, Maggs! ;P As for the "Male Equivalent" of the Casting Couch (not limited to Directors: other... more
        • Ah, yes...Maggie, Wed Oct 25 3:56am
          Well, the remarks about decline in fame were not coined on LVC but meant as a contribution to the discussion of high sucide rates in the business. Hmmm, the casting couch, yes, indeed, that was... more
          • Beyond the Casting CouchDCG, Wed Oct 25 2:57pm
            Sorry, Maggs --- I wrote my reply in bits, as I had time or needed a break from work, over several hours...so, by the time I finished the Reply from some short notes I took after reading your post... more
            • No worries!Maggie, Wed Oct 25 11:41pm
              You raised interesting points. Yes, LVC had his share of career slumps, and no, they were noch mono-causal, things rarely are. I'm also curious how the Weinstein scandal will influence public opinion ... more
              • One of the reasons I started to research LVC's life and career was to answer the question some of our fellow TBn members have also raised at various times: "Why wasn't Lee Van Cleef more successful?" ... more
                • I am surprised...Maggie, Sat Oct 28 2:09pm
                  ... to read that fans thought he wasn't successful. There are many ways to measure success and money and limelights are not the only one. Many great artists gained fame (and would have become super... more
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