Ah, yes...
Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:56am

Well, the remarks about decline in fame were not coined on LVC but meant as a contribution to the discussion of high sucide rates in the business.

Hmmm, the casting couch, yes, indeed, that was triggered by the current Weinstein discussion - though that surprised me a little as it did not sound like so very big news to me. But then maybe other pussy-grabbing gentle(?)men might have raised the general awareness.

Interesting you bring up gay male employers, and interesting to read your thoughts on them. And yes you are right, I have never thought about that either. And I can imagine that the audition you mentioned was just that, I have heard Lees account of it in the interview you mentioned.

As a matter of fact I had straight male actors and straight male directors etc. in mind when I asked the question. There must be some sort of power-play going on between them, too, and I wondered what that might be. Never having been a male of any description in my entire life I can only guess... ;)

  • Male equivalent of Director's CouchDCG, Mon Oct 23 9:59pm
    There are many factors that led to LVC's "decline" in "Fame"...too many to detail in this post, alas, Maggs! ;P As for the "Male Equivalent" of the Casting Couch (not limited to Directors: other... more
    • Ah, yes... — Maggie, Wed Oct 25 3:56am
      • Beyond the Casting CouchDCG, Wed Oct 25 2:57pm
        Sorry, Maggs --- I wrote my reply in bits, as I had time or needed a break from work, over several, by the time I finished the Reply from some short notes I took after reading your post... more
        • No worries!Maggie, Wed Oct 25 11:41pm
          You raised interesting points. Yes, LVC had his share of career slumps, and no, they were noch mono-causal, things rarely are. I'm also curious how the Weinstein scandal will influence public opinion ... more
          • One of the reasons I started to research LVC's life and career was to answer the question some of our fellow TBn members have also raised at various times: "Why wasn't Lee Van Cleef more successful?" ... more
            • I am surprised...Maggie, Sat Oct 28 2:09pm
              ... to read that fans thought he wasn't successful. There are many ways to measure success and money and limelights are not the only one. Many great artists gained fame (and would have become super... more
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