Insightful as usual, Doc, and also...
Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:41am

...as per usual, I agree with you virtually 100%. ;)

Langdon & Pollard!! Very true, both these guys always fall onto the B-list when people think of "Silent" Movie Stars (esp. Snub Pollard) --- if fans even *get* to the "B-list", at all... Langdon was HUGE, as you note, and I'd have to persue historical Box Office records and Studio Contracts to nail down exactly where all these guys ranked financially, as well as how long their Top status lasted. But you make excellent points, amigo...

re: Subjective Slapstick:

Again, salient deduction, Sherlock! ;) I liked Slapstick as a kid, ran from it for about the next 15-20 years, then re-discovered the "Silents" around age 30 and developed a new appreciation for the form and all its tenets.

It was partly because the film (and the many other productions that played on Slapstick Humor at the time) debuted during my "Slient" Movie Avoidance period, that I hated DUMB & DUMBER when it first appeared on the Silver Screen.

Ironically, I thought REN & STIMPY -- which began its short run about then -- an absolute HOOT!! So guess that proves your Subjective Slapstick hypothesis, eh? ;)

And I'm with you on the KEYSTONE COPS shorts. Might have to re-visit those some day, and see if my tastes have changed, in that particular case...

Another excellent observation, re: LVC (et al) and Pathos! Might have to discuss that more with you, off-list... ;)

Keep up the great work, amigo!

  • Nice topic, MaggaDoc, Fri Nov 24 12:02pm
    I agree with DCG about adding Lloyd to the genius category. Another two names that spring to mind are Harry Langdon and Snub Pollard. They were both very popular in their heyday, especially Langdon,... more
    • Insightful as usual, Doc, and also... — DCG, Sat Nov 25 10:41am
    • Nice observations!Maggie, Sat Nov 25 3:55am
      Oh yes, Harry Langdon... And of course there also were Fatty Arbuckle and the extremely hilarious James Finlayson, even though I only ever saw him as a supporting actor. And the gang of little louts... more
      • Correct Maggs.Doc, Sat Nov 25 9:56pm
        The women of silent comedy (1920s) and early talkies (1930s) were extremely talented but overshadowed by the men. Mainly their roles were more dramatic in nature, with such fine actors as Lillian... more
        • Nice overview, Doc...DCG, Sun Nov 26 9:24pm
          ...it's been a few years since I was "into" the Dawn of Film era, so all those you named didn't come trippingly to the tongue for me, as they did for you. ;) Marie Dressler is one I'd add to your... more
      • Giving "Silent" players a voiceDCG, Sat Nov 25 5:03pm
        Almost mentioned Roscoe 'Fatty' Arbuckle in my earlier post, Maggs, so thanks for mentioning him in yours. He was, of course, instrumental in launching Keaton's career, but also worked with Chaplin... more
        • Oh, I just remembered ..Doc, Sat Nov 25 10:38pm
          Not sure if you and Maggs knew that Stan Laurel was actually Charlie Chaplin's understudy. Also worth mentioning, Laurel and Hardy appeared together in a silent short before they eventually teamed... more
          • Nice bits of info!Maggie, Mon Nov 27 3:23am
            I heard that Laurel and Hardy had met on the set of a movie, but I did not know about the Chaplin connection. Hardly surprising, is it? It stull must have been a small world. Yes, the Fatty Arbuckle... more
            • Your last sentence.Doc, Mon Nov 27 6:59am
              I cannot lie ... I got chills when I read it. Genuine goosebumps.
      • Oh, yes!Maggie, Sat Nov 25 4:30am
        ... of course there is Mary Pickford....
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