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Maggie
BobO, Doc
Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:40am

Thank you for your interesting comments!

Yes, dubbing seems to have been a hassle and done later, agreed. I knew about God's gun - but I didn't mind so very much, the first time I saw it it was dubbed anyway. We get most of our movies dubbed, so we usually don't know what people sound like. Which is a pity if you ask me. We also can get odd text, GBU was dubbed to be funny and lots of offscreen comments were added, originally. That happened after The Persuaders! with Tony Curtis and Roger Moore weren't too successful in the UK but wildly successful over here because of their hilarious dubbing. So it became on vogue. GBU got redubbed several times, the later ones are closer to the original.

Doc, good examples! Unforgiven really did a lot to paint a more realistic picture of the West and the way things end being drab and dreary. I am pretty sure it would not have been possible without Leone. You also made me think of Brokeback Mountain....

It is a pity that casts were stereotyped, you really use a lot of opportunity for colourful characters.

  • Yes, I agree with that.Doc, Fri Dec 8 10:49pm
    For example, consider English Bob in The Quick and the Dead. Gene Hackman starred in that. Another Hackman vehicle was of course Unforgiven, which went a long way toward demythicizing the Old West... more
    • BobO, Doc — Maggie, Mon Dec 11 12:40am
      • Funny Dubbing...?DCG, Wed Dec 13 7:41am
        It's entirely possible that I'm havin' a Senior Moment, but I don't recall ever reading/hearing of GBU (or any other SW) being "dubbed to be funny". At least, not by the Studio, as part of an... more
        • Hi DCG and MaggsDoc, Wed Dec 13 10:13pm
          I could be wrong, but my impression reading Maggie's message was that she wasn't meaning "funny" in exactly the sense you describe in your well thought out examples (let's make a camp film that might ... more
          • Cool Runnings (slip off the rails)DCG, Thu Dec 14 5:15pm
            Well, Doc --- I guess it had to happen, eventually! ;) We finally found something to completely Disagree over... Yes, I can understand how the Rat Pack's suave behavior appears laughable to some... more
            • Haha. Don't forget Peter Lawford.Doc, Thu Dec 14 11:32pm
              Actually, Sinatra and Lawford had a huge falling out. Something to do with JFK canceling a stay at Sinatra's house due to Sinatra's alleged criminal ties. Sinatra felt that Lawford didn't make any... more
              • Cool an' the GangDCG, Sat Dec 23 11:37pm
                LOL....no, Doc --- I didn't "forget" Peter Lawford: I specifically said "and the gang" to include the "others" beyond the chief triumvirate of The Messrs. Cool that are the Rat Pack. While not "as"... more
                • Agree.Doc, Wed Dec 27 9:40am
                  Joey Bishop was all kinda "Me??" But he was beloved by fellow rat-packers. And Shirley Maclaine also. Wonderful classy lady. And yet another of my boyhood crushes. Happy belated holidays DCG, and to... more
                  • Rat Pack -- the Ladies edition!DCG, Fri Dec 29 4:22am
                    And yes, -- HAPPY NEW YEAR to you, too, Doc! Meanwhile, an earlier draught (mostly composed in my head, rather than actually typed out) of my prior message had notes on several of the Rat Pack... more
        • Ooops...Maggie, Wed Dec 13 3:08pm
          I should have clarified I meant the German version not the English. I am sorry, I forgot to mention that. We get to see almost everything dubbed over here, so I am not familiar with what a lot of... more
          • Danke schön, Maggs... ;)DCG, Thu Dec 14 5:14pm
            ...now your points make sense. ;) And thanks for the clarification and Background Info on German Dubbing of SW's! As for a modern-day (then or now) perception that SW's were *meant* to be Funny, that ... more
            • but maybe people just needed something to laugh about in their daily lives. And I don't think that dubbing always had artistic approach as a relevant theme, but rather inland sales. So if they... more
              • Ah, okay, Maggs...DCG, Thu Dec 21 4:36am
                ...that definitely does create a Chicken-n-Egg scenario, as you suggest. Hmmm. For a culture that takes a ton of hits for its LACK of a Funny Bone, Germany certainly can surprise. (They were, as you... more
          • English language difficult...Maggie, Thu Dec 14 12:07am
            I did ponder a bit about this and I think I managed to sort it out now. Doc, I did actually mean funny in the sense of "something to laugh about", as in joke, tongue in cheek, whatever. They did a... more
            • Oh, and...Maggie, Thu Dec 14 3:52am
              ... there also was Sabata, right? That was 69, right? And that was when LVC was approached by Parolini who introduced the idea of a crazy comedy to him, right? So I stick out my little neck and... more
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