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Maggie
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Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:08pm

I should have clarified I meant the German version not the English. I am sorry, I forgot to mention that.

We get to see almost everything dubbed over here, so I am not familiar with what a lot of people really sound like but with what the people who always dub them sound like. And yes, there was a period of tongue in cheek dubbing in the 70s and Spaghetti Westerns are considered to be something meant to be funny. Of course, the later Bud Spencer/Terence Hill productions also contributed to that image, and they were immensely popular.

The person who caused the craze was Rainer Brandt who wrote the German script for the Persuaders. I cannot find who did the script for GBU but I am pretty sure that the second time I watched it it wasn't only longer and made more sense, but also much less chatty.

In the end there were three different people dubbing LVC and three for Eli Wallach and two for Eastwood. And they all were mixed up in one movie, they did not re-dub the whole thing, so people's voices did sometimes switch from scene to scene.

Unfortunately there is not much to be found on the www with regard to the people who were involved with the script and how dubbing changed things, I would have to dig out the odd version.

On the other hand it might also all be due to faulty memory on my part and might need some more research, now that I started looking into it in more detail I am not that sure about what happened to this one movie any more.

All I can say is that a guy called Heinz Petruo often dubbed LVC over here, and I think he has a very matching voice, though of course different. He passed away in 2001, almost 90 years old.

  • Funny Dubbing...?DCG, Wed Dec 13 7:41am
    It's entirely possible that I'm havin' a Senior Moment, but I don't recall ever reading/hearing of GBU (or any other SW) being "dubbed to be funny". At least, not by the Studio, as part of an... more
    • Hi DCG and MaggsDoc, Wed Dec 13 10:13pm
      I could be wrong, but my impression reading Maggie's message was that she wasn't meaning "funny" in exactly the sense you describe in your well thought out examples (let's make a camp film that might ... more
      • Cool Runnings (slip off the rails)DCG, Thu Dec 14 5:15pm
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        • Haha. Don't forget Peter Lawford.Doc, Thu Dec 14 11:32pm
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    • Ooops... — Maggie, Wed Dec 13 3:08pm
      • Danke schön, Maggs... ;)DCG, Thu Dec 14 5:14pm
        ...now your points make sense. ;) And thanks for the clarification and Background Info on German Dubbing of SW's! As for a modern-day (then or now) perception that SW's were *meant* to be Funny, that ... more
        • but maybe people just needed something to laugh about in their daily lives. And I don't think that dubbing always had artistic approach as a relevant theme, but rather inland sales. So if they... more
          • Ah, okay, Maggs...DCG, Thu Dec 21 4:36am
            ...that definitely does create a Chicken-n-Egg scenario, as you suggest. Hmmm. For a culture that takes a ton of hits for its LACK of a Funny Bone, Germany certainly can surprise. (They were, as you... more
      • English language difficult...Maggie, Thu Dec 14 12:07am
        I did ponder a bit about this and I think I managed to sort it out now. Doc, I did actually mean funny in the sense of "something to laugh about", as in joke, tongue in cheek, whatever. They did a... more
        • Oh, and...Maggie, Thu Dec 14 3:52am
          ... there also was Sabata, right? That was 69, right? And that was when LVC was approached by Parolini who introduced the idea of a crazy comedy to him, right? So I stick out my little neck and... more
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