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TheBad7
Lee's Top Ten
Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:03am

I'll bite:

1 - PER QUALCHE DOLLARO IN PIU, 1965, as Colonel Douglas Mortimer.
2 - DEATH RIDES A HORSE, 1967, as Ryan.
3 - IL BUONO, IL BRUTTO, IL CATTIVO, 1966, as Angel Eyes.
4 - THE GRAND DUEL, 1972, as Sheriff Clayton.
5 - THE SQUEEZE, 1978, as Chris Gretchko/Ray Sloane.
6 - THE BIG GUNDOWN (Franco Cleef Version), 1966, as Jonathan "Colorado" Corbett.
7 - DAY OF ANGER, 1967, as Frank Talby.
8 - MEAN FRANK & CRAZY TONY, 1973, as Frankie Diomides (Diomonde?).
9 - GOD'S GUN, 1976, as Father John/Lewis.*
10 - THE STRANGER & THE GUNFIGHTER (a.k.a., BLOOD MONEY), 1974, as Dakota.

The above are films in which Lee is either the headliner, or a second bill with major screen time. The first five tend to be set in stone, but the the second five tend to rotate round in various orders depending on mood--and even by the hour, as D.C. mentioned.

@Maggie: Looks like you were right! Dakota and Wang Ho cracked the Top Ten.

*Lots of Lee fans have serious issues with GOD'S GUN. Although that production was plagued with problems from the getgo, the presence of Lee and Jack Palance alone automatically purchases a large chunk of that ugliness. I don't like that Lee's voice isn't present--apparently, Lee did not return during post-production to do his voice parts; however, the voice actor used is close to Lee's natural voice. That being said, Lee receives a ton of screen time, and he successfully pulls off two roles: one as a benevolent priest, and one as the classic, steel-eyed gunslinger we all know and love. I consider this film a flawed masterpiece: the story itself is excellent, and in the hands of the right director, it could've been a masterpiece. Jack Palance hams it up as villain Sam Clayton, but Palance's approach works beautifully in this scenario.

tb7

  • Top Ten LVC films (survey)DCG, Wed Feb 14 5:50pm
    OK, between Maggs and others mentioning Top Ten lists -- and the fact one's individual tastes change over time, so if you answered this Survey in the past, maybe it's different today? -- it's time to ... more
    • Make It Top FifteenTheBad7, Fri Feb 16 4:37am
      Skimming over the responses, we should make this a Top Fifteen Survey. Also--and you called this, D.C.--my order has switched up a bit. More shortly. tb7
    • Lee's Top Ten — TheBad7, Thu Feb 15 5:03am
      • REVISED: Lee's Top FifteenTheBad7, Fri Feb 16 12:50pm
        1 - PER QUALCHE DOLLARO IN PIU, 1965, as Colonel Douglas Mortimer. 2 - DEATH RIDES A HORSE, 1967, as Ryan. 3 - THE BIG GUNDOWN, 1966, as Jonathan "Colorado" Corbett. 4 - IL BUONO, IL BRUTTO, IL... more
      • TB7, your Top Ten...DCG, Thu Feb 15 11:16am
        ...could've been MY list, as we both agree how one's Tastes/Opinions when it comes to Fave LVC Films can Change relatively quickly --- well put, re: "Steak & Eggs", and "there are so many favorites... more
        • Me! Me!Maggie, Thu Feb 15 1:45pm
          As a matter of fact I was about to start a thread like this, it must have been in the air. I will mostly go for multi-layerd and complex characters and the movies I tend to rewatch quite a lot. Like... more
          • will add a couple of comments: It was interesting to see that the same fistful (hah!) of movies scored high on all our rankings, and that they all lean to the Spaghetti Westrn era in the late 60s and ... more
            • @MaggieTheBad7, Mon Feb 19 1:10am
              Hi Maggie-- On this there is no dispute: Lee's prime as an actor was between 1965 and 1974--I chose 1974 as a cutoff as I consider THE STRANGER & THE GUNFIGHTER Lee's last great role as a classic,... more
              • hi tb7Maggie, Mon Feb 19 2:52am
                Great comments! And food for thought. Yes, I would agree on 1974 - for the very reason you mentioned. I think we read repeatedly in this forum he really did want to do more comedy, so it must have... more
                • @Maggie Pt. 2 - Lee The ActorTheBad7, Mon Feb 19 5:30am
                  Hi Maggie-- I consider myself a huge L.V.C. fan; however, I was always frustrated by his infatuation with wanting to do comedy. This might upset some fans, but I'm going to say it anyway: Lee, like... more
                  • tb7, are you sure...Maggie, Mon Feb 19 7:28am
                    ... you meant bad man's river and not barquero (1970)? Bad man's river is a comedy and there is much more slapstick than with Sabata... Can't answer in detail at the moment, got to hop along. I'll be ... more
                    • BAD MAN'S RIVERTheBad7, Mon Feb 19 8:40am
                      Hi Maggie-- Oh no, I did mean BAD MAN'S RIVER--in fact, Lee's Roy King in that film reminds me of Dakota from THE STRANGER & THE GUNFIGHTER, and I liked the concept of a bank robber taking on a huge... more
            • MF+CT, 1970's era EuroComedy, et alDCG, Fri Feb 16 1:08pm
              Well, first of all, Maggs: I did mention that over multiple viewings, over many years, I have gotten used to Tony LoBianco's goofy "Tony Breda" performance. ;) But you raise a great point, re: that... more
            • @MaggieTheBad7, Fri Feb 16 12:52pm
              Hi Maggie-- Love your comments on MF & CT. I will add to your comments when I can this weekend. :) tb7
          • Thinking about mineBob 0, Fri Feb 16 2:45am
            For A Few Dollars More 65 FAFDM has to be number one if I'm thinking Lee performance and screen time. I'm trying to find a way to include The Squeeze and Last Stagecoach West without dropping... more
            • @BobO: Agree on PER QUALCHE...TheBad7, Fri Feb 16 12:38pm
              Hi Bob-- Agreed. This is the DEFINITIVE L.V.C. performance. Lee gives us EVERYTHING we could possibly want, and on display are all his strengths as an actor. Furthermore, Lee upstages the great Clint ... more
              • Lee's acting developmentDCG, Sat Feb 17 12:50am
                TB7, you probably recall that Clint, around the time of GBU, bitched about how his pictures with Leone kept diminishing his parts as they went along -- (to paraphrase) "Van Cleef's got all the... more
                • OUaTitWDoc, Sat Feb 17 9:57pm
                  I heard that Leone wanted Clint, Lee and Eli for his triumphant Once Upon a Time in the West. Story has it that Clint thought "Great, the gang is back together" until he learned that Leone had... more
                  • The G.B.U. Trio in WESTTheBad7, Mon Feb 19 5:01am
                    Let me qualify this by saying that I am a big fan of Eastwood as both an actor and director--though I prefer him as an actor; in recent years, he sometimes gets too leisurely with his pacing--to the... more
                    • ClintDCG, Tue Feb 20 10:58am
                      First off: Nice Overview/Perspective on Clint, amigo. I'm pretty sure you know, TB7, that I agree with you --- and have spouting similar words for decades, whenever I fall into conversation about... more
                    • Very insightful comments. Thanks! (nm)Doc, Mon Feb 19 9:40pm
                  • Agree w/yr assessment, Doc...DCG, Sun Feb 18 2:23am
                    ...and recall, as a kid, a Clint feature in PEOPLE magazine (mid-70s) that included a shot of him screening film for Editing practice. Best, DCG.
                  • I'd be interestedMaggie, Sun Feb 18 1:26am
                    in the male/female ratio among LVC fans and among Clint fans. In my perception Clint does not score very high in sex appeal, but Lee clearly does. At least I have known more male Clint fans than... more
                • ClintMaggie, Sat Feb 17 5:21am
                  is not my favorite actor as I may have mentioned before. And I know he did go on bitching about Leone movies. But no wonder Lee and Eli Wallach stole the show, I always percieve Clints performance as ... more
                  • Yep, Kinski was underrated -- if a bit Mad, to be sure. ;) I could never be confident whether his insane, public Rants were an Act or a Cry for Help. I discovered the work of Werner Herzog thru... more
                    • The public rants are famousMaggie, Sun Feb 18 9:42am
                      but there are rumours that he did that to attract attention. It is interesting to see old TV shows he appeared upon where he just tried to derail things by acting like a spoilt child and everybody... more
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