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Barquero opening titles
Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:34pm

Years ago Warren Oates talked some about Barquero and indicated Gordon Douglas, who was a well known director who had recently directed Frank Sinatra is his Tony Rome films, was hired to replace the original director who was killed in a plane crash scouting for locations in Colorado. He said Douglars seemed to be in a hurry and directed quickly. Douglas himself admitted in an interview about the large number of films he directed and he said not many of the stories interested him but he accepted the jobs because he has a large family to feed. If you look at his credits he directed everything from science fiction to our gang comedies. The producer wanted this movie to have a spaghetti western feel though it is a US film shot in Colorado and a studio in Tucson, Arizona and they usually have opening credits like GB&U or Day of Anger and Douglas put some material over the lense for the credits that tried to make it look like an oil painting or the film is being projected on a canvass one would use to paint a portrait on to get a similar effect. I'm not sure it worked as people don't get it. I for one didn't get the FAFDM opening evolving from the smoke coming from the cigar the assassin lit played by Leone himself. You don't see Sergio of course but you hear Sergio humming and whistling and lighting a smoke and shooting the man off the horse. I didn't get the fact the credits were smoke driven until I read it years later.

  • BarqueroATL Kathy, Tue Jun 26 9:00pm
    Just watched Barquero for the millionth time, and still don't get the opening credits. Why is there a filter, a piece of gauze, or something, that alters the appearance of the film, during the... more
    • BarqueroATL Kathy, Thu Jun 28 7:39am
      Thanks guys, lots of interesting info. I've never paid that much attention to the opening credits, but now, with all that insight, I certainly will. Hope you are all well, stay cool, it's HOT out... more
    • Barquero opening titles — Bob 0, Wed Jun 27 6:34pm
      • Sorry, bobO...DCG, Wed Jun 27 8:58pm
        ...I actually started writing my reply (time-stamped 8.49pm) before you posted yours -- which is why I don't reference it and comment upon it in that entry, below. ;P Yes, Gordon Douglas was known as ... more
        • Hi DCGBob 0, Thu Jun 28 6:54am
          On For A Few Dollars More I eventually noticed smoke blown in view of the camera after Sergio lit the smoke (cigar/pipe/cigarette??) but this was after Alberto Grimaldi's name was added to the... more
          • Well, even tho it may be...DCG, Thu Jun 28 9:25am
            ...Leone doing the physical smoking, humming, etc (you sure that's not Clint humming...? Sounds like his voice, to me) on the FF$M titles, I'm confident it was CIGAR smoke we see onscreen: that's... more
            • I have consistently read it is LeoneBob 0, Thu Jun 28 12:31pm
              Plus the scene is a set up for a generic bounty hunter. You could be right but the way the poor man is shot a such a distance, an assassination if you will, doesn't fit the way Clint's character... more
              • Well, bobO, as is so often the case...DCG, Thu Jun 28 5:49pm
                ...when I rely upon my memory instead of double-checking a scene before openin' my big mouth, here's the deal: My "memory" (which is in quotes because it was *clearly* Fallible in this case at hand)... more
                • Smoke humming whistling etcBob O, Fri Jun 29 9:38am
                  Hi DCG. I just watched your link to refresh my memory. Yes he whistles then just before he lights his cigar, he hums. And to the right you see smoke. Then when he fires the rifle more smoke. That... more
                  • Just went lookin' the "original" (sans Grimaldi cred) titles to FF$M, and re-acquainted myself with their designer, perhaps the single most influential artist when it comes to title sequences used in ... more
                    • DCG. Your opinion on Gramaldi credit.Bob 0, Fri Jun 29 8:06pm
                      What do you think was the reason Gramaldi was left off the credits? Was it an oversight or done intentionally? It seems unlikely the darn producer is not likely to be over looked. And for decades the ... more
                  • Smoke humming whistling etc 2Bob O, Fri Jun 29 9:43am
                    I've read several times and Christopher Fraylin who is not always reliable that it's Leone himself whistling and humming. A film produced by Alberto Gramaldi also is first on the GBU credits which... more
                    • I've heard other SW lay scholars...DCG, Fri Jun 29 6:37pm
                      ...point out that Sir Christopher Frayling occasionally made errors in his otherwise in-depth SOMETHING TO DO WITH DEATH tome on Leone. (Hell, who's perfect when compiling a 500+ page epic, eh?) For... more
          • FAFDM drive inBob 0, Thu Jun 28 7:01am
            Later when it played at the drive inn, presto Alberto Grimaldi's name as producer was suddenly inserted at the beginning of the film and how it was done actually interrupts the flow of the smoke... more
            • Gralmaldi/LeoneBob 0, Thu Jun 28 7:08am
              He also mentioned one or two things the should interest you ( to borrow a GB&U line) and that was leaving Grimaldi's name as producer off the credits. Was it an honest mistake as Sergio claimed?... more
              • Yep, there are TONS of stories...DCG, Thu Jun 28 9:38am
                ...of infighting and competition during Spaghetti Western filmmaking -- Leone, in particular, stirred the pot constantly. And while it's pretty well documented that Sergio Leone "bent" the Truth on a ... more
                • Lee meeting LeoneBob 0, Thu Jun 28 12:39pm
                  I'm rather certain Leone was about out of time after being turned down by Henry Fonda ( Clint confirmed Sergio wanted Fonda in Lee's part) and Charles Bronson and I've read about others offered the... more
                  • Well, between...DCG, Thu Jun 28 6:12pm
                    ...my time constraints and not having my notes in front of me, I'm not gonna go too deep into this, but: I seem to recall that LVC made reference to some details of meeting Leone, there's Sergio's... more
      • Barquero opening titlesATL Kathy, Wed Jun 27 7:23pm
        Thanks Bob O for that info. I knew that one of our savvy men would know the answer! I guess the material over the lense conveyed the message we eventually arrived at, but the first 100 times I saw... more
        • Bit late w/my Reply, Kathy, oops...DCG, Wed Jun 27 9:09pm
          ...bobO beat me to it! ;) As he so often does... But I hope I expanded on a few points of interest, in my li'l contribution, below (time-stamped 8.49pm). Spotting the "TV production" feel to BARQUERO ... more
    • I have the same questionIoana, Wed Jun 27 5:32am
      Hello and glad to see you here again, ATL Kathy!❤️ Barquero is a great movie, and of course our LVC is gorgeous there. You know what? I thought there is a painting too! And then the... more
      • BarqueroATL Kathy, Wed Jun 27 12:42pm
        Yes, Ioana…..you and I agree. The opening scenes with the credits, does look like a painting to me too. Don't know the producer/directors intent. Maybe one of our bad men can answer the question. And ... more
        • BARQUERO's title sequence (a suggestion)DCG, Wed Jun 27 8:49pm
          Hey, (ATL) Kathy & Ioana, an' all -------------------------- Having studied Spaghetti Westerns (not just LVC's role within the genre) for over 2 decades, and viewed at least 300 of the 6-700 made... more
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