ATL Kathy
Barquero opening titles
Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:23pm

Thanks Bob O for that info. I knew that one of our savvy men would know the answer!

I guess the material over the lense conveyed the message we eventually arrived at, but the first 100 times I saw it, I thought I was going blind! I also seemed to get the sense it was a made for TV production, it had that feel to it. And yes, the FDM "smoke" graphics were initially lost on me too! Hope you are having a good one!

Thanks again!

  • Barquero opening titlesBob 0, Wed Jun 27 6:34pm
    Years ago Warren Oates talked some about Barquero and indicated Gordon Douglas, who was a well known director who had recently directed Frank Sinatra is his Tony Rome films, was hired to replace the... more
    • Sorry, bobO...DCG, Wed Jun 27 8:58pm
      ...I actually started writing my reply (time-stamped 8.49pm) before you posted yours -- which is why I don't reference it and comment upon it in that entry, below. ;P Yes, Gordon Douglas was known as ... more
      • Hi DCGBob 0, Thu Jun 28 6:54am
        On For A Few Dollars More I eventually noticed smoke blown in view of the camera after Sergio lit the smoke (cigar/pipe/cigarette??) but this was after Alberto Grimaldi's name was added to the... more
        • Well, even tho it may be...DCG, Thu Jun 28 9:25am
          ...Leone doing the physical smoking, humming, etc (you sure that's not Clint humming...? Sounds like his voice, to me) on the FF$M titles, I'm confident it was CIGAR smoke we see onscreen: that's... more
          • I have consistently read it is LeoneBob 0, Thu Jun 28 12:31pm
            Plus the scene is a set up for a generic bounty hunter. You could be right but the way the poor man is shot a such a distance, an assassination if you will, doesn't fit the way Clint's character... more
            • Well, bobO, as is so often the case...DCG, Thu Jun 28 5:49pm
              ...when I rely upon my memory instead of double-checking a scene before openin' my big mouth, here's the deal: My "memory" (which is in quotes because it was *clearly* Fallible in this case at hand)... more
              • Smoke humming whistling etcBob O, Fri Jun 29 9:38am
                Hi DCG. I just watched your link to refresh my memory. Yes he whistles then just before he lights his cigar, he hums. And to the right you see smoke. Then when he fires the rifle more smoke. That... more
                • Just went lookin' the "original" (sans Grimaldi cred) titles to FF$M, and re-acquainted myself with their designer, perhaps the single most influential artist when it comes to title sequences used in ... more
                  • DCG. Your opinion on Gramaldi credit.Bob 0, Fri Jun 29 8:06pm
                    What do you think was the reason Gramaldi was left off the credits? Was it an oversight or done intentionally? It seems unlikely the darn producer is not likely to be over looked. And for decades the ... more
                • Smoke humming whistling etc 2Bob O, Fri Jun 29 9:43am
                  I've read several times and Christopher Fraylin who is not always reliable that it's Leone himself whistling and humming. A film produced by Alberto Gramaldi also is first on the GBU credits which... more
                  • I've heard other SW lay scholars...DCG, Fri Jun 29 6:37pm
                    ...point out that Sir Christopher Frayling occasionally made errors in his otherwise in-depth SOMETHING TO DO WITH DEATH tome on Leone. (Hell, who's perfect when compiling a 500+ page epic, eh?) For... more
                    • Yes in 1967Bob 0, Fri Jun 29 8:25pm
                      In 1967 I was so impressed with FAF$F when it played first run I saw it 9 times in week. Eventually I noticed there was no producer in the credits. Later at a Drive-inn showing about 1970, Alberto... more
        • FAFDM drive inBob 0, Thu Jun 28 7:01am
          Later when it played at the drive inn, presto Alberto Grimaldi's name as producer was suddenly inserted at the beginning of the film and how it was done actually interrupts the flow of the smoke... more
          • Gralmaldi/LeoneBob 0, Thu Jun 28 7:08am
            He also mentioned one or two things the should interest you ( to borrow a GB&U line) and that was leaving Grimaldi's name as producer off the credits. Was it an honest mistake as Sergio claimed?... more
            • Yep, there are TONS of stories...DCG, Thu Jun 28 9:38am
              ...of infighting and competition during Spaghetti Western filmmaking -- Leone, in particular, stirred the pot constantly. And while it's pretty well documented that Sergio Leone "bent" the Truth on a ... more
              • Lee meeting LeoneBob 0, Thu Jun 28 12:39pm
                I'm rather certain Leone was about out of time after being turned down by Henry Fonda ( Clint confirmed Sergio wanted Fonda in Lee's part) and Charles Bronson and I've read about others offered the... more
                • Well, between...DCG, Thu Jun 28 6:12pm
         time constraints and not having my notes in front of me, I'm not gonna go too deep into this, but: I seem to recall that LVC made reference to some details of meeting Leone, there's Sergio's... more
    • Barquero opening titles — ATL Kathy, Wed Jun 27 7:23pm
      • Bit late w/my Reply, Kathy, oops...DCG, Wed Jun 27 9:09pm
        ...bobO beat me to it! ;) As he so often does... But I hope I expanded on a few points of interest, in my li'l contribution, below (time-stamped 8.49pm). Spotting the "TV production" feel to BARQUERO ... more
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