Actually, LeeFan...
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:41pm

...while Alan was, indeed, the first Van Cleef family member to discover and post on this board (way back when, Aaron...the late 1990s?), both Alan's son Chris and Lee's granddaughter, Kate, have joined us from time to time.

But Alan has been the most active of the clan -- I'd say he usually pops in roughly a couple-few times per year.

Well, not even Lee would've "pegged" himself for an acting career, while he was driving tractors an' crunchin' numbers -- it was a total accident, as you've probably read elsewhere by now.

I'm afraid, from my own direct research -- original interviews with Lee's friends, family, co-stars and crew -- I am completely confident in stating that Lee Van Cleef, to be as kind as possible, had a decades-long relationship with alcohol. We'd call it "alcohol abuse", today, but back then heavy, consistent drinking was more "accepted". (Btw, I'm a published journalist, my first pieces were printed almost 4 decades ago, and I'm working toward a book on LVC -- for which I've gotten a shitload of vitriol, as it's taking me so long, LOL...)

Lee's sense of humor? Well, those who knew him said he laughed a lot -- but I know of at least a handful of incidents in which he exhibited a sudden, explosive streak of anger, too. I haven't made an in-depth study of it as it pertains to Lee's life, but it wouldn't surprise me if he had bouts of depression -- as you note, it's common enough among Artistic types, eh?

But back to more light-hearted fare --- it seems Lee's sense of humor was fairly broad and inclusive. And also, people have often shared that his performances onscreen aren't so much "acting" as "Lee just being Lee". In other words, they suggest if you study his films, you'll get a reasonable portrait of the man, himself. For humor, I'd recommend THE STRANGER AND THE GUNFIGHTER (aka BLOOD MONEY), and especially, EL CONDOR -- the latter was one in which he expressed great pride.

Hey, LeeFan --- could you post the link to that "mega-tattoo" you mention? I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd lke to see it, and I have to log off for now, so no time to go Searchin'...

Keep the Q's comin', eh? ;)


  • The GroupLeeFan, Wed Jul 11 3:46pm
    Thanks, Maggie for your welcome. I'm sure this is the right group because you are all so knowledgeable about LVC. As long as I have adored him, I feel I don't know much about Lee Van Cleef, the man,... more
    • Actually, LeeFan... — DCG, Wed Jul 11 4:41pm
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        • LVCLeeFan, Fri Jul 13 6:40am
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