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The man vs. the actor vs. the roles he played
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:44am

I do not know whether we will ever be able to really sort that out, it was a time when it was much easier to sidestep limelights and tabloids (unless you were called Burton or Taylor, but with their dynamics they probably also would have made wonderful social media stars...). And even with those in the public spotlight now we never know what they really are like in their private lives, do we?

But still, there are gems to be found in Aarons blog that give real insight, but they mostly are kind of flashlights in the dark.

I personally am not even sure I would have got along well with the real person, of course there is the different generation and background, but there also are issues I find it hard to come to terms with, like what DCG so tactfully termed his decades-long relationship with alcohol. It is also true that his generation was much more tolerant towards it than people are nowadays and the roles of men and women in society also changed, so who knows...

However, he was great at what he was doing and I especially appreciate the way he could create or - even more intriguing - hint at complex characters using fleeting and minimal changes of expression and leaving a lot of room for the viewer to elaborate on that. To me that is a kind of minimalistic artform that can easily go unnoticed. One of the reasons I like Death rides a Horse.

For humour, I also would like to add Beyond the Law and Bad Man's river to DCGs list. Yes, I know, the latter one IS quite controversial.

What are your favorite LVC movies?

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    • The man vs. the actor vs. the roles he played — Maggie, Thu Jul 12 3:44am
      • LVCLeeFan, Fri Jul 13 6:40am
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        • Thanks for your comments!Maggie, Fri Jul 13 7:13am
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              • FFDMLEEFAN, Fri Jul 13 3:52pm
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