FrashavanOne sees that most clearly in...Tue Mar 6, 2012 15:46220.127.116.11...Lutheranism and Anglicanism, both of which managed rapprochement with Eastern Orthodoxy, by conveniently overlooking all the things that RC and Orthodoxy have in common. A case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," of course, but also a fundamental illustration that it was a political issue, and not an insoluble theological one.
- The requirements of nascent nationalism .... Baruch, Tue Mar 6 13:25required some kind of repudiation of Catholic internationalism. So excuses would have been made ... even if as insubstantial as the E Orthodox crossing themselves opposite to the Catholics. Since... more
- One sees that most clearly in... Frashavan, Tue Mar 6 15:46
- At one time during the Christian-Muslim conflicts .... Baruch, Tue Mar 6 23:42of the 16th century, the French and Venetians were allied with the Ottomans. But the Germans caught up to that, in the 20th century. Shalom
- The French were delusional and the Venetians opportunistic Frashavan, Wed Mar 7 07:57At that point in time, allying with the Ottomans was a foolish thing to do, since Europe was in real peril. By the time the Germans did it it was foolish for a different reason, since the Ottomans... more