MN_MorganRe: Reading, Learnings, and BurningsSun Mar 11, 2012 12:03188.8.131.52When I first converted, I read the whole thing from cover to cover before going back into the nitty gritties...but it's so easy to listen to the guys in the pulpit who inflate one or two verses for their own agendas. How much more then for someone who hasn't read it but in pieces.
To say that teachers don't do the same thing would be ludicrous. As it is the curriculum as well as access to new text books and more learning materials tends to suffer due to slashed budget cuts in the wrong places. If you don't study outside of your school curriculum (or even read the text book you DO have other than assigned readings) a lot of times you suffer. Some classes I remember we barely used the textbook. Luckily, I enjoyed reading (not just for pleasure) so I'd read the book and it's margins.
My chemistry teacher jokingly told the class not to read their textbook... a good chunk of the class actually believed him. >_<
- Re: Reflections on the latest blunder .... Mirage, Sun Mar 11 09:07I've been seeing people burning our flag on TV and YouTube for years. Sometimes they are our own citizens, sometimes they are people we are fighting or their allies, and sometimes they are protesters ... more
- Re: Reading, Learnings, and Burnings MN_Morgan, Sun Mar 11 12:03
- I have told my students not to read the textbook, too Frashavan, Mon Mar 12 15:32Not joking though. I find many of the textbooks are written in an way that discourages students from finding anything easily, and they lack the skills to find things when it's difficult... when I try ... more
- Textbooks, like war, are a racket ;-( Baruch, Mon Mar 12 21:48A real teacher knows and understands their material, and simply uses what is at appropriately at hand, to do whatever needs to be done. The goal of textbook publishers isn't to educate, but to simply ... more
- Don't blame you Mirage, Mon Mar 12 16:52My textbooks were so riddled with political distortions they were ridiculous sometimes. Feynman managed to get himself on the committee that selects textbooks at one point, and wrote about that... more
- Yeah, I could see that MN_Morgan, Mon Mar 12 15:54Luckily, our school was pretty good about keeping up the science books. My teacher kept a fire under their butts, though (hooray for Bunsen burners ;D). Now, he never used the questions or the labs... more
- Re: Reading, Learnings, and Burnings Mirage, Sun Mar 11 16:27When I was in grade school, a lot of the teachers would show us the movie after we read the book. I was never sure if that was a reward, or if the teachers felt kids wouldn't understand the book... more
- What? A dull tome of epistemology doesn't inspire? Pshah! (nm) Baruch, Sun Mar 11 20:48
- A sad truth you speak ... Baruch, Sun Mar 11 14:54they have the ability to read, but don't, not even their own scriptures. Was too busy watching Waisting Time With The Stars on TV. Shalom
- An interesting fact Frashavan, Mon Mar 12 15:54Most native English speakers find it easier to read a passage from the King James Bible, with comprehension, than to read a passage from Shakespeare with comprehension -- even though the two texts... more
- Wow, that's fascinating. (nm) Mirage, Mon Mar 12 16:53
- Some theorize that... Frashavan, Mon Mar 12 17:29... it is because, for so long, the Bible was the only book most people had access to, and read, that the cadence and turns of phrase have become the subtext of all English with any kind of... more
- Re: Some theorize that... Mirage, Mon Mar 12 17:54That actually rings true to me on a gut level. There are also studies that show that music heard in the womb is strongly preferred later in life, so if the mother is a churchgoer, perhaps the words... more
- My youngest son... Frashavan, Mon Mar 12 17:59...is autistic, and very sensitive to sound. He has an almost unerring sense of good music, reacting well and strongly to classics of all genres, and wanting anything he doesn't like "off!" as soon... more
- Re: Austism MN_Morgan, Tue Mar 13 12:47That's not uncommon. The boy I watch after school loves certain genres of music, and some things just overstimulate him to the point where he will get aggressive.
- War dances, like the Irish jig, are meant to do that ;-) (nm) Baruch, Tue Mar 13 12:57
- I wonder if this is related Mirage, Mon Mar 12 18:06My mother had perfect pitch, but certain harmonies were literally painful to her. For example several songs by The Who hurt her ears. We tried to figure out a pattern so as not to cause her... more
- Religion can be an inducement to read, though. Mirage, Sun Mar 11 16:48The people who can quote chapter and verse have generally read the Bible many times. In the days when laypeople were discouraged from reading or translating the Bible, vernacular Bibles emerged... more
- True enough ... Baruch, Sun Mar 11 20:43that was once the great purpose of Sunday School. It was for adults, not children ... to teach the illiterate to read. Of course the Quran and Torah have served that same purpose for centuries. The... more
- More on Reading MN_Morgan, Mon Mar 12 13:52I read in National Geographic that some Scottish towns that solely spoke Gaelic would learn English from the Bible and from the church. This is the problem I have with crooked clergy. They take... more
- This is a universal problem ... Baruch, Mon Mar 12 18:38800 years ago, the Japanese nobleman, Dogen, who was already a Buddhist monk, went to China to find someone who could teach him "real" Buddhism. He didn't think he could find it in his own country,... more
- Re: More on Reading Mirage, Mon Mar 12 14:31Abraham Lincoln also taught himself to read from a Bible. I can understand that depending on the beliefs of the people at a church, there might be candidates those people tend to prefer, but yeah, I... more
- More so ... Baruch, Mon Mar 12 21:45G-d, charity and spiritual work, are what life is supposed to be about. This is why materialism and egotism will always fail, because they are what death is about. Shalom
- post-modern = 2nd stone age Baruch, Sun Mar 11 09:31Post-literate is a good description of the US. Just look at the drop in books (hard, soft, electronic). The drop in readership of newspapers ... isn't as indicative, since I think they were always... more
- Re: post-modern = 2nd stone age Mirage, Sun Mar 11 09:36You never know where great art will come from.
- In history it has come from institutional religion ... Baruch, Sun Mar 11 21:00sponsoring it, and royal courts sponsoring it ... because it takes a great expense to make it, or to keep a lot of artistic talent hanging around. Our secular mechantilist plebian age is anti-art.... more
- Re: In history it has come from institutional religion ... Mirage, Sun Mar 11 21:47Don't forget the incredible beautiful things which have been created by outsider artists, such as the Watts Tower. If I had a choice between visiting either the Sistine Chapel or Don Justo's... more