clarym29Gen.Wed Apr 4, 2012 12:1822.214.171.124Genesis 1:1-2 has historically been misunderstood; and involves something entirely different than the 'creation' of man. ('Earth's Earlist Ages' by G.H. Pember is a good study)
---I'll have to look this book up. 1 & 2 have been misunderstood? It is clear from those two passages that Earth was first and the Sun second. Hmmmmm....not quite what my science book tells me.
Okay, here's a ch.1 excerpt to make you happy.
----Oh thank you! i just love to be happy.
Summary of E. vs. C. (Ch6. II. A.):
I. ...The more famous subject of Darwin's uniformitarianism, usually termed "evolution," comes to the front. This is always a controversial and emotional subject, and is usually discussed in a quasi�scientific manner. 128
----What does uniformitarianism mean???? I really do not see any emotional content in Darwin's writing on the subject of evolution. He states the facts he has observed and what he thinks those facts mean. Maybe it is discussed in a quasi-scientific way because most people do not understand basic science.
In dealing with the subject of this section, I will endeavor to avoid the above pitfall by being as logical and objective as possible. Let the reader be the judge of whether or not I succeed in doing so. I shall first discuss the merits and foibles of the "pro-evolution" argument and show where objectivity ended and human error began.
-----it would be interesting to delve into this more deeply.
II. Lastly, the Hebrew verb used in the account of the six days of restoration means to fashion or prepare out of already existing matter. Such a means implies a process, unlike that of Genesis 1:1. Is this process, illustrated in the account of the six days, an evolutionary one?
------you lost me there.
The mathematical odds against this being coincidental are 720 to 1;
----Don't get where the odds come from or what that means, anyway.
----You did not answer my question anyway. What I'm really interested in is how do you reconcile Genesis 1 and Genesis 2? They are completely different versions of creation. Just simply does not make any sense.
- Genesis Chapter1 achristian1985, Wed Apr 4 09:31Genesis 1:1-2 has historically been misunderstood; and involves something entirely different than the 'creation' of man. ('Earth's Earlist Ages' by G.H. Pember is a good study) Okay, here's a ch.1... more
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- Don't have time or space to explain achristian1985, Wed Apr 4 16:29Genesis 1 the empasis is firstly on the heavens then on the earth, and uses Hebrew word Barah- create something out of nothing. Then something happened to this original creation between Genesis 1:1... more
- Okay clarym29, Wed Apr 4 18:29Not enough space. Okay. But none of this makes any sense to me. Are you suggesting that the all-knowing, all-seeing, all-everything God make a mistake??? Hmmmmm......
- limitations to mental comprehension achristian1985, Wed Apr 4 20:53But, fortunately, not to sSpiritual apprehension. I cannot mentally understand why a being would knowingly delude himsel into thinking that he could make himself equal to the being who created him.... more
- i can't understand, either...... clarym29, Wed Apr 4 22:13But, fortunately, not to sSpiritual apprehension. I cannot mentally understand why a being would knowingly delude himsel into thinking that he could make himself equal to the being who created him.... more
- No achristian1985, Wed Apr 4 20:29He allows us to make mistakes, because He respects our free will. We're higher than the angels, who are merely servants. He has a will, yes. And He will accomplish what He is desiring to do. But not... more
- But what about..... clarym29, Wed Apr 4 21:58Hell. Where does that fit in your universe??
- Well sai ram, Wed Apr 4 23:30My first question on Hell was when was it created?....you got 6 days to choose from....I don't think it was mentioned......now if it was created in God's busy first week....then God must have known... more
- yes. achristian1985, Wed Apr 4 22:41Someone once asked Thomas Aquinas (you know the guy who was so lovable that all the animals came up to him?) how a God who was Love could create a burning lake of fire? To which Thomas replied: "For... more
- Well, I respectfully say..... clarym29, Thu Apr 5 00:00That line of thinking is crap. it makes no sense rationally, emotionally or morally. As you define him God is totally amoral, and is simply a Cosmic Bully.
- sorry achristian1985, Thu Apr 5 12:28If your impression of my speaking causes you to get the wrong idea about God, then I am not representing Him faithfully. I urge you, therefore, to go directly to the sources that I am sharing about.... more
- Well I'll be darned. clarym29, Thu Apr 5 18:13God is invisible---hmmmmm, it just so happens that the Invisible Pink Unicorn is too. I bet they know each other. Shoot, I bet they are fast friends. Next time I see her I will ask her.
- Starting to laugh again sai ram, Wed Apr 4 12:041In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. ... more
- a little knowledge achristian1985, Wed Apr 4 16:17sai ram: anyone can lead from the ignorantly obvious and childishly mock something that they do not understand. Rosseaux said the Bible was "too profound to be a mere work of man". But I guess Sai... more
- more nonsense sai ram, Thu Apr 5 00:09"Rosseaux said the Bible was "too profound to be a mere work of man". ....well, there are alot of profound books written by men....and whether you want to admit it or not...the different books of the ... more
- Re: more nonsense achristian1985, Thu Apr 5 12:09The works of man are capable of being completely understood by the human brain. You can even reduce them using symbolic logic and make a computer understand them. 1,00 feet up, etc. ... Confusing... more
- Again sai ram, Fri Apr 6 21:32you missed my point.....2,000 ago..they didn't understand what was in the Heaven....they had no idea it was 40 below just a few thousand feet up.......so jesus, mohammed ascended into heaven and... more
- Re: Again achristian1985, Sat Apr 7 15:47So they were ignorant then.That is why that basic math (Aristotlean) was lost to most of the civilized world, and had to be recovered to western civiliztion from Chiona through the Arabic world? If... more
- So you surrender...you French? sai ram, Sat Apr 7 23:28I agree...it is the spiritual dark ages.....see its the Kali Yuga...its been this way for 5,000 years. You appear to think you have the light and no need to search anymore..(but thats a form of... more
- Sorry, left off info achristian1985, Wed Apr 4 16:19I suggest you read "Earth's Earliest Ages", by G. H. Pember.