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clarym29
Sadly
Fri Apr 6, 2012 08:42
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You are correct, and maybe even understating it a bit. Michigan has a law that allows the state to take over any city, fire all the elected officials, appoint a manager who can do just about anything he wants, including selling off any and all assets the city has, break any contract the city has, and maintain this for as long as he deems necessary. There is no recourse to this. And the State in its constitution clearly states that no law shall go into effect until 90 after the session it was created in has passed. Unless 2/3 of the senate and house vote that it take effect immediately. Since the Republications has gained control of both houses 549 of the 599 bills passed has gone into effect immediately. And this is despite the fact that they (the Rep.) fall 10 short of having an automatic 2/3. Yet the Democrats have failed to protest--until now. They have finally filed a law suit. The next law on the docket for the state is one restricting voting rights. If all this is allowed to stand, then it will spread, and much too quickly voting will be a thing we can tell out grandchildren about. Americans like to think they are the best--and we are--we are the best Third World country out there.

  • O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy? — ipirate2, Fri Apr 6 07:45
    O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy? The U. S. is on sale. Buy it while it’s hot. O say can you see, by the dawn's early light, what so proudly we hailed we now proudly renounce. democracy... more
    • When the big $$$$ could win an election! (nm) — Kasey, Sun Apr 8 09:24
      • I would love to see the millionaires spend ... — Baruch, Sun Apr 8 10:25
        100% of their money as soon as possible, even if on something as worthless as elections. The sooner the millionaires end up on skid row with the rest of us, the better things will be. The problem is... more
    • vike: West Coast radiation — sai ram, Sat Apr 7 17:06
      could it be that our government isn't cutting us in on this?......naw http://www.setyoufreenews.com/2012/04/03/the-radiation-warnings-you-wont-get-from-the-mainstream-propaganda-machine/
      • vike: While I was gone ... — Baruch, Sat Apr 7 21:42
        I saw the movie, John Carter. I thought it was good escapism. I also rewatched the funny but spiritual animation, Rango. Shalom
        • Johm Carter — clarym29, Sun Apr 8 09:59
          Read all the books of the series as a teen. Loved Chessmen of Mars, in which a new twist is added to our chess board and added some men. Liked it so much I built a copy of one and talked a friend... more
      • Someone I know, bought his own radiation meter ;-( (nm) — Baruch, Sat Apr 7 17:20
    • Political theory vs political reality ... — Baruch, Sat Apr 7 07:14
      Originally neither women, Indians, slaves and men without enough real estate ... couldn't vote. Perhaps we should have kept it that way? The US is a republic, same as Nazi Germany or the Soviet... more
      • Re: Political theory vs political reality ... — ipirate2, Wed Apr 11 07:17
        Sometimes thinking in an analogical way shows a clearer picture. Good work. Regards DL
      • Well the more you dilute — sai ram, Sat Apr 7 17:10
        Well the more you dilute the voter base...the greater the chance of dummies getting to vote.....it was already high before it was diluted....the only thing left is prisoners and children....perhaps... more
        • Agree--to a point — clarym29, Sun Apr 8 10:03
          But the Rep. are limiting voting only in classes that vote mainly Demo. While I am not a huge fan of either party, what this means is that the Rep party will have a much easier time winning and that... more
          • i think I've solved the problem — sai ram, Sun Apr 8 11:32
            As I have said I don't have much faith in the voting public....hows thi? You vote...if your candidate wins and if this elected official is covicted of any crime while holding office. The voter can't... more
            • I can do it even faster ... — Baruch, Sun Apr 8 13:56
              Convict every officeholder of corruption (common individual attack in Republican Rome or Athens). I won't bother to define what corruption is, but I won't be partisan (my officeholder is not corrupt... more
              • Since — sai ram, Sun Apr 8 16:32
                Since the largest government corruption scandal in US history was right here in good old Oklahoma.....my plan would have immediate effects here in the State....the guy who blew the whistle was right... more
            • Or..... — clarym29, Sun Apr 8 11:58
              maybe we should go in the opposite direction. Maybe a full democracy should be tried--like the New England townhall meetings. That, too, would slow down the who government process and make one person ... more
              • Correct ... — Baruch, Sun Apr 8 14:10
                you simply have to reestablish the "polis" ... which was similar to our counties ... only on the basis of population, not on gerrymandering. Ancient Megara for example, near Athens. City population... more
                • Corporate vote — clarym29, Sun Apr 8 17:16
                  Or we can simply finish the current trend. Only let corporations vote. we do not pay our politicians, corporations do. the corporation who backs the winning politicians, then have to pay that... more
          • Sai is a rather strange person ... — Baruch, Sun Apr 8 10:23
            an American Hindu by choice, and also rather Republican. If he was Democrat he would be Buddhist of course ;-) The media and the DINO/RINO coalition, want every election to be razor thin, like... more
    • Well — sai ram, Fri Apr 6 10:22
      while I was growing up I thought democracy was the way to go...one man (er, woman)...one vote......but the problem with this is the voter. One highly educated person who knows the issues....knows the ... more
      • Alas part of the point of politics ... — Baruch, Sat Apr 7 07:58
        is for the somewhat rich, to get much richer. Just ask the Clintons and their $5 million dollar wedding for their daughter! Well, beats the royal one last year for a mere $200 million!! Yes, study... more
      • Lie detector tests... — MN_Morgan, Fri Apr 6 19:27
        Don't work on sociopaths. It only works if you believe you're lying and if you don't know the polygraph tests don't really work. If you stay frosty, it won't pick up a thing.
        • I have a way around that ... — Baruch, Sat Apr 7 07:47
          put the lie detector on a voter, and if the voter thinks the politician is lying ... zing! Shalom
        • They are better than nuttin (nm) — sai ram, Fri Apr 6 21:19
          • Not really — clarym29, Fri Apr 6 21:47
            For it seems all of our politicians are sociopaths. They simply don't care. Corporate money tends to do that.
            • I prefer water-boarding ... — Baruch, Sat Apr 7 08:02
              so do both parties. I would say, OK be a politician, but you get tortured every day while you are in office. And not with rubber chicken fund raisers. While torture won't cure sociopaths (who also... more
    • Sadly — clarym29, Fri Apr 6 08:42
      • Correct, we are the best ;-) — Baruch, Sat Apr 7 07:25
        Third World country. Just don't blame the poor immigrants, legal or otherwise. Blame the Anglo-Saxons (who blame everyone except themselves) aka Tea Party. They have been messing things up (just ask... more
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