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achristian1985
Not wind,fire or earthquake
Fri Apr 6, 2012 11:53
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but a still, small voice.
"Hath not the potter power over the clay? Shall the thing formed say to Him who formed it: "Why have you made me thus"."God has put eternity in the hearts of men". clarym, you have all that you need to come to a full knowledge of the truth. I am sorry that it doesn't fall out of the sky or that we're not born with it. But then we wouldn't appreciate it.

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Logical Inference re.:God — achristian1985, Wed Mar 28 17:05

Come, let us reason together: There are two, and only two, explanations for the means whereby life now exists on this planet. First, there is the explanation that life on earth was divinely created.... more
And the possibility of life arriving from space.... — Kasey, Tue Apr 3 06:22

during the Earth's bombardment of water comets which ultimately occurred millions of years to form our oceans? Regards, Kasey
Correct — achristian1985, Tue Apr 3 09:49

Also heavier hydrocarbons which seeped into the earth as petroleum deposits. The dinosaurs and verdant vegetation resulting from the prevalent tropical climate became coal, not oil. (for the most... more
Hmm — Mirage, Thu Mar 29 18:47

What if God isn't a biological organism?
both — achristian1985, Thu Apr 5 12:58

He came into a locked room. And breathed into them the Spirit. And had them feel the wounds on His body. And appeared, and disappeared. "Now the Lord is the Spirit".
ie The summation of Natural forces? (nm) — Kasey, Tue Apr 3 06:31

Re: ie The summation of Natural forces? — Mirage, Tue Apr 3 11:51

That's a poetic and rather beautiful conceptualization. Thank you. I think that's pretty much how my father saw things.
I rather suspect he isn't.... (nm) — Frashavan, Fri Mar 30 07:56

Re: I rather suspect he isn't.... — Mirage, Fri Mar 30 10:31

Well, since he has invited us to reason together with him, I think this is a fairly obvious question. Am not trying to lure him into speculating about the origins of God, but I don't think this... more
my motives — achristian1985, Fri Mar 30 12:05

God led me to Himself mentally, logically. Not emotionally nor through cultural, familial influence. So, it gives me an edge in relating things rationally. Personally, there is a lot of the human... more
Interesting — Mirage, Fri Mar 30 12:36

I wasn't raised in any tradition, since one of my parents was religious but felt it was rude to talk about it, and the other was an atheist. They agreed not to bias their kids and to shield us from... more
evolution of God — achristian1985, Fri Mar 30 11:56

Even the mere phrase above is misleading, and throws thought off track from what I was trying (poorly) to illuminate: There are many people who embrace evolution not so much for its many scientific... more
In the Beginning — clarym29, Thu Apr 5 10:31

This entire subject is a mental minefield. The First Cause. We all understand that everything has an ending and a beginning. Can't really have one with the other--a unit, so to speak. So, the Big... more
don't wait, get an answer now — achristian1985, Thu Apr 5 11:00

He came not to judge the world but to give us His eternal life. Right here, right now, free offer. Just recognize it and receive. Don't wait 'until you die'. Death is the might of Satan, and the end... more
I have an answer now.... — clarym29, Thu Apr 5 11:07

But I appreciate your concern. But my answer is not your answer. One size does not fit all. You seem to presume that I have not done what you suggest I do. I have at a few times in my life done... more
Re: I have an answer now.... — achristian1985, Thu Apr 5 12:55

Sorry I gave you the wrong impression. You cannot improve on God, that is one of His attributes- uniqueness. But He has no ego and is totally unselfish. He shed His own blood in order to make Himself ... more
Answer recieved — clarym29, Fri Apr 6 09:21

Sorry I gave you the wrong impression. ----No you have never given me the wrong impression. You are simply another closed-minded zealot. You cannot improve on God, that is one of His attributes-... more
Not wind,fire or earthquake — achristian1985, Fri Apr 6 11:53
Familiar with the still small voice — clarym29, Fri Apr 6 19:06

but a still, small voice. ---This, of course, can be very powerful. And when that voice speaks I've learned I should listen. "Hath not the potter power over the clay? Shall the thing formed say to... more
Re: Familiar with the still small voice — achristian1985, Sat Apr 7 15:51

Not my analogy, but the inspired one of the apostle Paul. Whose word will you respect if it doesn't agree with your concepts. 'what is right in their own eyes...is foolishness to God'.
Respect??? — clarym29, Sun Apr 8 10:18

Paul? Not likely. How much respect should I give, and how inspired is, a guy who takes drugs while riding a horse, who stares into the sun (Son????) until he goes blind? In my book, not much. He's... more
Re: Respect??? — achristian1985, Sun Apr 8 16:56

Your scathing abrasive character assassinations, spoken in total misinformed, ignorant generalities amaze me. I had hoped that you were a thoughtful, objective person. Fact: I concluded purely... more
GH Pember — clarym29, Sun Apr 8 18:40

Scientific and objective--okay two quotes from the Earth's Earliest Ages; pg 109. "Reason is fallible and often dangerous; but the power of the spirit is an instinctive and unerring perception of... more
Re: GH Pember — achristian1985, Mon Apr 9 11:25

Anybody, and usually everybody at some point, can TALK about God. Anybody, and usually everybody at some point, can give their enlightened opinion about what God’s shortcomings are (like the blind... more
very astute — achristian1985, Mon Apr 9 11:21

I congratulate you on your accurate observation. I suggested Pember for his insight on the invisible spiritual aspects which are not directly spelled out in the Bible. Unfortunatel, Pember dabbled at ... more
Re: very astute — achristian1985, Mon Apr 9 11:23

I am perturbed, flabbergasted, and disturbed by the continuing efforts of misguided (to the point even of committing perjury in ‘Dover, et. al.’) and scripturally incorrect religious people to foist... more
Re: very astute — achristian1985, Mon Apr 9 11:24

The greatest misconception that Satan has ever put in the minds of the human race is a disbelief in his existence. The second greatest misconception that Satan has put in the minds of the human race... more
Over and over again..... — clarym29, Mon Apr 9 12:45

achristian--take a deep breath, and think for a moment. You keep repeating the same drivel over and over again thinking, apparently, that the more it is repeated the more true it is. No--a falsehood... more
Re: Over and over again..... — achristian1985, Mon Apr 9 16:39

I also put a lot of emphasis on Revelation. The beginning and the ending of anything are almost always the most important parts. Any other irrelevent complaints?
fact — achristian1985, Mon Apr 9 16:35

Jesus is God. That's the bottom line that separates the wheat from the chaff. All the world's knowledge is useless if it doesn't lead you to a realization of this. Neither John the baptizer nor I are ... more
Not a fact — clarym29, Mon Apr 9 18:12

That is an opinion. And that is yours. Not mine. You suggest: "That's the bottom line that separates the wheat from the chaff. All the world's knowledge is useless if it doesn't lead you to a... more
clarify for clarym — achristian1985, Tue Apr 10 10:43

We are made aware of the universe around us through comprehending knowledge about it, and also through hands-on experiences of it. All of these objective things are adequate pictures depicting... more
Fair enough — clarym29, Tue Apr 10 11:23

We are made aware of the universe around us through comprehending knowledge about it, and also through hands-on experiences of it. Oh yes, I agree. I learn mainly by sight, but I do have a large... more
Re: Fair enough — achristian1985, Tue Apr 10 16:02

"Reason and intellect are distractions for you." When in darkness, black is white and white is black. Reason and intellect are the only valid means to accurately communicate unseen but experienciable ... more
Circles — clarym29, Tue Apr 10 16:11

You are talking in circles. And I think you are simply too dizzy to think straight. I think if you lie down for awhile you will feel better.
Re: Over and over again..... — achristian1985, Mon Apr 9 16:31

it's in my book: 425 pages, 321 scientific (non-scriptural footnotes. That's the best I can give you. CHAPTER ONE THE AXIOM I did not speak in secret, in a land of darkness; I did not say . . . Seek... more
Please correct me — clarym29, Sun Apr 8 17:38

then. You said: Fact: I concluded purely through logical, objective, scientific reasoning that: 1. The Bible was the word of God, 2. Christ was who He said He was, 3. There was a secondary, opposing... more
"the Word is near you, even in your mouth" — achristian1985, Mon Apr 9 11:55

"The same Lord is rich to all who call upon His name" <not silently thinking about Him, however fervently> "No one can say: "Jesus is Lord" except in the sSpirit". You are sooooo close. "Who has... more
my book, relating my search — achristian1985, Mon Apr 9 11:34

www.amessageforthehumanrace.org 1. I recently decided (after waiting 30 years) that it was okay to disseminate <too prematurely might interfere with free-will process> 2. The most easy and... more
But....but — sai ram, Thu Apr 5 18:56

"But He has no ego and is totally unselfish"...where did you get this information?....you aren't making things up are you?....see I thought God was smiteful and jealous...and prone to anger.....all... more
Thanks for clarifying — Mirage, Fri Mar 30 12:39

Cosmogony is an interest of mine.
your speculation — achristian1985, Fri Mar 30 11:44

Your wondering is past the scope of objective knowledge, which is capable only of pointing you in the direction of truth. Yes, one day God incarnated to be a man, and is now available as the Spirit... more
As it happens — Mirage, Fri Mar 30 12:46

I already believe in the reality of Jesus. I've said I am a Christian. I may not be a typical Christian but I am one. I believe in both Jesus Christ and evolution.
belief in versus receiving into — achristian1985, Mon Apr 2 10:37

The Greek text (much more precise and descriptive than English) uses the word INTO when it speaks of people believing into Jesus: receiving Him into their being. Mere objective belief of something... more
I lack words for my experience — Mirage, Mon Apr 2 12:47

I'm not planning on asking the devil anything. What happened to me was immense, profound, and deeply personal. When I try to talk about it, it doesn't come out right. It doesn't touch it. The word... more
Spiritual occurances — sai ram, Thu Apr 5 01:12

can be most profound...I've had a number of them and also won't share except to a select few...but I don't think they need to be shared...they were personally designed for myself....yours I'm sure... more
thanks — achristian1985, Tue Apr 3 10:02

Thanks for the advice on CAPS. I can be rude, crude, and sociallu unacceptable w/o even trying or meaning to- which detracts from the message. RE: your experience: Most people get noticeable... more
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