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Kasey
That's not the point....
Mon Apr 9, 2012 22:01
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The cert. stamp is so small and unobtrusively located so that many are totally unaware that in buying the product they are contributing to a foreign cause that may come back to bite them. It is in fact an aspect of the application of sharia law in our community by default
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Kasey

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Awareness of halal tax by defaut for all food consumers? (nm) — Kasey, Sun Apr 8 09:32

??? (nm) — clarym29, Sun Apr 8 11:18

How will Muslim butchers tax all Australians? — Baruch, Sun Apr 8 10:21

Sounds like just another lobby to me. Here is America, the Left-Handed Polish-American Gay Alliance ... would love to tax the rest of us for being Right-Handed Not-Polish-Americans. This is what... more
It seems that the different Islamic organizations here have. — Kasey, Mon Apr 9 00:09

convinced some of our food producers to label on packets etc. the dime sized halal approval certification stamp, mixed in with other small details. Most buyers are ignorant of this except Muslim ones ... more
Big Ideas ... — Baruch, Mon Apr 9 07:13

is this the program you were talking about ... from last Friday ... The Great Partnership? I might give it a podcast listen. Shalom
Seems no different than a kosher stamp ... — Baruch, Mon Apr 9 00:44

as long as it is visible and people know what it is ... I don't see harm. Jewish slaughter method is similar to Muslim slaughter method, and is more humane than the factory abattoirs here in the US.... more
Better you look at...... — Kasey, Mon Apr 9 09:38

the two links below: http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4361 and... more
So you are saying that some Muslims support ... — Baruch, Mon Apr 9 12:44

terrorism in the Middle East, just as some Irish-Americans used to support IRA action against GB? Not nice, I would agree. But hardly unique. Shalom
That's not the point.... — Kasey, Mon Apr 9 22:01
Having the mark too small ... — Baruch, Tue Apr 10 06:45

defeats any legitimate purpose ... that isn't true for Jewish marks here .. though there are about a half dozen different marks (not all Jews follow the same rabbinic counsel) ... and not everything... more
Actually it does the opposite as.... — Kasey, Wed Apr 11 00:44

most non-Muslims are ignorant of its presence and its implications. It's sharia in action and it means that thousands of N.M's buy the product for no particular reason of choice, but the % take from... more
Well if infidels are ignorant ... — Baruch, Wed Apr 11 06:00

then they deserve to inherit the burqua, do they not? Most shoppers are women. Unless you want to believe that non-Muslim ignorance is a vast Muslim conspiracy too ;-( Shalom
If media outlets don't inform the general public.... — Kasey, Wed Apr 11 07:52

and the federal government won't so as to be politically correct and not offend members of that ideology, the only way is by an internet link or word of mouth. That's what seems to be happening here. ... more
Perhaps ... — Baruch, Wed Apr 11 18:09

or maybe like most governments, yours is incompetent? By all means inform if you want to. Just don't try to spread panic please. Shalom
What is your Fed. govt. doing? (nm) — Kasey, Thu Apr 12 06:26

Conquer world, enslave human race ... — Baruch, Thu Apr 12 07:16

Gurkhas for the Queen and Pope. Shalom
Avoiding the Q. again??? (nm) — Kasey, Thu Apr 12 18:08

Just honest, Queen Victoria and Pres. Lincoln are dead (nm) — Baruch, Thu Apr 12 18:14

And you may find this... — Kasey, Tue Apr 10 07:14

link worth a look as well. http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2011/January/Muslim-Halal-Food-Sales-Supporting-Terrorism/
All Muslims support terrorism? Really? — Baruch, Tue Apr 10 07:40

Since money is fungible, the dollar I spent buying a Coca Cola ... eventually could pass thru the hands of a Muslim (physically or electronically as credit .. but ... Muslim credit isn't subject to... more
Terrorism--red herring — clarym29, Tue Apr 10 08:49

I would posit that the word "terrorism" is useless or meaningless. My terrorist is your freedom fighter. The colonists were huge fans of terror in it's war against the British. But that can't be,... more
But not against a particular ideological terror threat! ! (nm) — Kasey, Wed Apr 11 00:30

You mean a particular group? (nm) — clarym29, Wed Apr 11 11:18

In America, anti-terrorism isn't specific ... — Baruch, Wed Apr 11 06:12

you can't be specific, when the point is for the upper 1% to make war against the lower 99%. Shalom
Try telling that to the FBI.! (nm) — Kasey, Wed Apr 11 07:44

Alas the FBI doesn't work for the people .. — Baruch, Wed Apr 11 18:10

they are rent-a-cops for the 1%. Shalom
We are all caught up in our own rhetoric ... — Baruch, Tue Apr 10 12:43

we are all amoral at best, and criminals at worst. So of course violence and oppression occur. What is necessary is to have the mythology that your in-group is virtuous and your out-group ... or... more
there you go again — sai ram, Tue Apr 10 09:28

there you go getting your "Irish" up again bringing up Bush.....instead of calling it "Islamic hate Crimes"...Bushey didn't want to upset the Islamic world more than he did.....giving something a... more
The muck-up over Kuwait was their first mistake! (nm) — Kasey, Wed Apr 11 00:26

Not a mistake, all part of Kissinger's master plan (nm) — Baruch, Wed Apr 11 06:11

No-no, you have that all wrong. — clarym29, Tue Apr 10 09:38

It is not Bush again--it is still. :) I guess I hate to see a war criminal walking around free. I really wish Bush would become a global traveler.
ah but — sai ram, Tue Apr 10 09:46

ah, but was I right about the blood pressure?.....and getting your Irish up?..... remember, not holding our politicians accountable is a national past time.....sai ram.
We don't hold politicians accountable ... — Baruch, Tue Apr 10 12:48

because Americans all got a little Cheney in them, and are in denial about it. We really like being barbaric, but can't admit it to ourselves. Non-Americans are not fooled by our crocodile tears... more
Yeah, I guess — clarym29, Tue Apr 10 14:50

that's true. The Ugly American is not anywhere near dead. We like to preach freedom, peace and tolerance. We sure as hell have not lived it.
Well if everyone would just be Gunga Din ... — Baruch, Tue Apr 10 18:07

to the Brits, or Tonto to the Americans, then we could all get along, just like Mr Rodney King said, by golly! That was satire of course. Freedom, peace and tolerance aren't free, and we sure as hell ... more
Esp. for non-whites! (nm) — Kasey, Wed Apr 11 00:33

Unfortunately — clarym29, Tue Apr 10 09:53

You are right about our politicians. Those who can't lie well enough, don't get elected. And I've never seen a poor politician. Why is it that the politicians from the South seem to lie especially... more
The Swedes are notably puritanical and liberal ... — Baruch, Tue Apr 10 12:45

Sweden would invade, because it is necessary to force the other guy to be liberal. Fortunately they got this out of their system 300 years ago, when the King of Sweden tried to liberalize Czar Peter. ... more
Smallness lets it bypass the unaware! (nm) — Kasey, Tue Apr 10 07:04

Listened to that Big Ideas program tonight ... — Baruch, Tue Apr 10 22:44

and it was very good. The Chief Rabbi of Australia really knowns his modern rabbinic Judaism. And as usual, if there is a rabbi in the room, there is at least one smart person in the room ;-). Shalom
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