sai ramthe So whatFri Apr 27, 2012 15:4798.22.137.252"But it was not dependable or should I say it had the lowest dependable rating one could give in this area.".....torture is a tool...and like any tools it might not be what you need for the job. But if I need it...I've got it...thats why I would not outlaw it. Our enemies certainly wouldn't.
"Tortured people have a tendency to tell you what you want to hear"....and usually its information. The torturer hope is that you will give it up. So telling them what they want...is what they want. Will everyone do so...heck no....but alot of weaker ones would. I would fit in this category. And its been reliable enough to have peope continue using it.
See the advantage of holding someone under these conditions of torture is not having to let them go. Even the tortured know that they are in a pickle...wrong information will come right back at them...and usually result in worst torture. If there is a terrorist with a nuclear bomb hidden somewhere in the US and we have them in a holding cell...I would want and expect the Government to use every method possible to get the terrorist to give up this information....now I would also hope that they use the most productive methods in obtaining it first. In descending order.. Whatever method that is and this includes waterboarding..tickling their feet....or showing them nude picures of Mama Cass...I really don't care.........
so what is the best methods of getting information from lets say a fanatic?.....if torture is useless or next to useless...whats a true and tested method?....I really want to know......
Spanking "In my experience it does not work, except maybe in a short term manner, at times." ......I agree totally....I don't think proponents of spanking ever said it was a long time fix for any infraction.....as a parent the best I could ever hope for was a "short term fix"....and I've seen the short term fix work well.....as a tool..there are times its the perfect tool...and others its most definetely not.........
"It teaches, whether or not we want it to, that might makes right."....er, 'might' usually always has the upper hand in life.....so a child needs to learn this lesson along with many other things......
"Spanking is too often used because it is the easiest thing to do."...easy yes in a way...most of the time..'timing' for discipline is an important factor....while a young child might not understand the real downside of going out into the street and you trying to make them understand all of the ramifications, will probably prove to be a waste of time....children as well as adults can relate to pain and will try and avoid it if possible....a child can immediately relate to pain..and even the slower of children can the put pain of spanking and going out into the street together real fast. And as a parent I would rather have my child experience pain on their butt as compared to a car running them over.....a time out in their room I don't have much hope for as a real success story....my daugther in law is a pediatrician....and she understand and supports spanking at certain ages and in some cases....as a tool...lets just call it instead of a spanking an "attention getter"........sai ram
- the So what — sai ram, Fri Apr 27 15:47
