BaruchRC dogma usually based on Plato ...Wed May 2, 2012 17:1422.214.171.124except when based on Aristotle. Except as symbol for the believer, transubstantiation never was good philosophy, but was originally promoted in the 800s as a pietistic belief, and also to avoid nullifying invalid mass by unqualified priests. If G-d is in the bread and wine, then communion is maintained, even if the priest is dressed as a Hawaiian hula dancer ;-) If its sanctity depends on the sanctity of the priest, then all sorts of problems arise. It was something fought over around 400s by Augustine of Hippo vs the Donatists, for different reasons. The Donatists didn't accept the priests imposed on them by the hierarchy, and so claimed that the mass by those rejected priests was invalid. Augustine of Hippo first promulgated that the validity is in the mass itself, not in the priest.
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