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Frashavan
Their continued power is proof they are Elect
Fri May 11, 2012 17:44
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If they weren't, YHWH would cast them into the outer Darkness, where there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth.... sort of like a NOW conference. ;-)

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Jesus forgiving sin is unjust to Victim. — ipirate2, Thu May 10 10:44

Jesus forgiving sin is unjust to Victim. Sin, by it’s very nature must have a victim. Without a victim, there is no sin. The one sinned against has the first right of forgiveness. If Jesus usurps... more
There is no atonement for sin anyway ... — Baruch, Thu May 10 14:32

just look at this satire directed against the wealthy miscreants .. "A Guide for Those with Much Money and Very Little Patience Whom Want to Prepare for Zombie Apocalypse But Are Afraid to Google It... more
Re: There is no atonement for sin anyway ... — ipirate2, Fri May 11 15:27

Have you never repented or atoned for the sins you have done? I have and so cannot agree that there is no atonement. I have also forgiven others and myself. Regards DL
Your and my professions ... — Baruch, Sun May 13 17:11

aren't what is usually meant by that term, we are primarily talking about Christian belief, when we say atonement. The best modern example I can give is "Truth commissions" of reconciliation like... more
Just like romney..... — clarym29, Thu May 10 16:21

says what he wants whatever the audience he is speaking to wants to hear, Christians can find evidence in the Bible to support whatever it is they want to do.
Re: Just like romney..... — ipirate2, Fri May 11 15:31

What scriptures do they use to support this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn6Qzrbbeg8 Regards DL
After awhile...... — clarym29, Fri May 11 16:30

rich, while, male, Christians don't need any specific scripture--they simply know that God put them in charge and do know best--for everybody.
Unfortunately Apostle Paul ... — Baruch, Sun May 13 17:15

was responsible for this ... he says that your masters (aka Roman Mafia) were put in power by G-d, and as long as they punish you for vice, you get what you deserve, and if they punish you for... more
Re: After awhile...... — ipirate2, Sat May 12 11:19

You have to remember that-------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6wfJWVCeI&feature=player_embedded Regards DL
Their continued power is proof they are Elect — Frashavan, Fri May 11 17:44
This is the theology of every religious status quo! (nm) — Baruch, Sun May 13 17:16

Heretic! ;-) — Frashavan, Sun May 13 17:42

The religious status quo is the Propertarian Class at prayer, as well you know.
Possession (of property) is 9/10ths of the law ... — Baruch, Sun May 13 18:11

both civil and canon ;-) Shalom
Interesting point ... — Baruch, Thu May 10 14:01

there are different kinds of sins. There is the sin against yourself. The sin against your family and friends. The sin against other individuals. The sin against your tribe or nation. The sin against ... more
Re: Interesting point ... — ipirate2, Fri May 11 15:40

Your last is true I think. We cannot think as they did from here and now. I can see sacrifice in smaller tribes and groups but not for what we have today. Animal sacrifices that is. Not human. There... more
Well a Rabbi would say that ... — Baruch, Sun May 13 17:19

especially one who wasn't really Orthodox ;-) Modern Rabbis would say ignore anything written before 1850 CE or even more recent, depending on the sect. Most Jews are atheists, and would place "that... more
Re: Well a Rabbi would say that ... — ipirate2, Mon May 14 09:25

I would have to stretch the term sacrifice to have it include execution of convicted criminals but in a sense, you might be right. I do not believe in executions as I think it is hard for a society... more
Confucius say: Society speak with forked tongue (nm) — Baruch, Mon May 14 09:55

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