clarym29The real meaning of life......Wed May 23, 2012 12:39220.127.116.11Find a place inside where there's joy, and the joy will burn out the pain.
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I don't believe people are looking for the meaning of life as much as they are looking for the experience of being alive.
Life is without meaning. You bring the meaning to it. The meaning of life is whatever you ascribe it to be. Being alive is the meaning.
One way or another, we all have to find what best fosters the flowering of our humanity in this contemporary life, and dedicate ourselves to that.
This week, I’m overwhelmed with the most delicious things. So, instead of posting something half-baked, I decided to share with you the very best explanation of the meaning of life I’ve ever seen or heard. Enjoy!
“People say that what we’re all seeking is a meaning for life. I don’t think that’s what we’re really seeking. I think that what we’re seeking is an experience of being alive, so that our life experiences on the purely physical plane will have resonances within our own innermost being and reality, so that we actually feel the rapture of being alive. That’s what it’s all finally about…”
For me, Joseph Campbell sums it up, especially in that last quote.
- Saw two sad obits this weekend Frashavan, Sun May 20 19:23One was for a infant that died 2 days after being born; the other was for a woman who had, it would seem taken her own life as the result of mental illness. Both of them left me feeling very sad; the ... more
- The real meaning of life...... clarym29, Wed May 23 12:39
- Well...speaking of detachment sai ram, Wed May 23 22:37"Find a place inside where there's joy, and the joy will burn out the pain.".........I've tried everything I can think of doing while in a dental chair...joy only comes when I can get out of the... more
- Are we then s jaded? (nm) Frashavan, Wed May 23 19:03
- I don't follow you..... clarym29, Wed May 23 20:22What do you mean by jaded?
- JUst that there is something about... Frashavan, Wed May 23 21:48...seeking experience to remind ourselves that we are alive that seems extremely jaded.
- Oh..... clarym29, Wed May 23 22:19but I don't think any of those quotes suggest that we should simply experience things willie-nillie. At least not to me. When I start feeling frantic, I tell myself to sit down and reflect for... more
- You are healing ;-) (nm) Baruch, Thu May 24 02:26
- Well it can lead to hallucinogens and bungee jumping ;-( Baruch, Wed May 23 21:54We are already alive, but our attitude is broken. Shalom
- You quote some true wisdom ;-) Baruch, Wed May 23 18:37Congratulations to you, that you apparently know the difference between true and false wisdom. Shalom
- Thanks clarym29, Wed May 23 20:23But I am about as far from the keeper of wisdom as one can find.
- Nice Khayyam eulogy ... Baruch, Mon May 21 00:03are you saing that the infant belonged to the woman, and she committed suicide over it? Shalom
- I don't think so Frashavan, Mon May 21 03:37Although they did come from the same suburb... That would be unbearably tragic. I am just finding the sense of futility grows deeper as I age.
- Your attachments sai ram, Mon May 21 08:29Your attachments on how the world should operate are causing you turmoil (suffering)......give up attachments......Buddha Sai Ram
- Really? clarym29, Wed May 23 12:43Does not the act of living cause turmoil? And being dedicated to giving up attachments is an attachment itself. Seems that when we give up attachments we are then dead--or only death will allow us to ... more
- Well sai ram, Wed May 23 22:32yes, turmoil does exist in life.....now the question is can you eliminate as much of it as possible?....can you do things that will cut down the turmoil?.....I would have to say yes (am I hearing a... more
- The rhetoric of Mahayana Buddhism ... Baruch, Wed May 23 18:14and in later Hinduism, to the extent it borrowed from Buddhism ... is quite tricky. At the highest level, one is supposed to even give up attachment to the Four Noble Truths, the Eight Fold Way and... more
- Six Characters in Search of an Author Frashavan, Wed May 23 18:35I sometimes think there is something to Pirnadello's play. We know (well, most adults know, anyway) that we play parts. Further, we assume that the parts we play are not what we are, but something... more
- No--I have never felt cheated..... clarym29, Wed May 23 20:30many times I've not known what to feel or felt that "reality" was pretty much shit. It is often said that life isn't fair. Maybe it's just that it is so fair, so neutral, that what we are seeing and... more
- Well Mahayana Buddhism would agree ... Baruch, Wed May 23 18:47that there is no final kernel, it is just emptiness. But then they understand that in ultimate reality, emptiness and fullness are equivalent, and that person and non-person are equivalent. As far as ... more
- Mayhaps..... clarym29, Wed May 23 20:37G_d is what we make of he/she; what we craft inside and that we give life to it/he/she on an individual basis. If you ask people what god is like, and you really listen, you will find that each... more
- No, I am not pessimistic, just sick and tired ... Baruch, Wed May 23 21:47what i have to do is embrace the lessons sickness and tiredness have to teach me ... damn! Yes, of course what each person has to say about G-d, whether via positiva or via negativa ... tells us much ... more
- I've always liked that idea..... clarym29, Wed May 23 22:29Namaste--that is one of my favorite greetings. It means to me that you are welcome in my world and you are a fellow human. Namaste
- Ultimately, ther is no ultimately Frashavan, Wed May 23 19:00The problem is, I am feeling very un-Yeatsian, at the moment. “Life is a long preparation for something that never happens.” Very true, but not the sort of thing that makes one want to continue to... more
- I have only stood on small mountains ... Baruch, Wed May 23 21:31Mt Evans in Colorado for example (road all the way to the top, but passable only in August). Mt Everest is twice that high. Mountains have always been inspiring. Ah to die while doing something you... more
- A final word from Khayyam Frashavan, Wed May 23 21:40Alike for those who for TO-DAY prepare, And those that after a TO-MORROW stare, A Muezzin from the Tower of Darkness cries "Fools! your Reward is neither Here nor There!"
- You say...... clarym29, Wed May 23 21:02“Life is a long preparation for something that never happens.” Very true, but not the sort of thing that makes one want to continue to struggle... ------For me I don't expect anything out of life.... more
- You are missing Eliot's Zen irony (nm) Baruch, Wed May 23 21:39
- Indeed Frashavan, Wed May 23 21:47Heraclitus was wrong...the river doesn't change. It's the same person who can never step twice into it.
- Being glib......and not...... clarym29, Wed May 23 18:29I do not have the depth of understanding of the Eastern religions/philosophies that you do. But I do have a grasp of the main thoughts on many of them. I was being somewhat glib with my observations. ... more
- Anytime you encounter mortality ... Baruch, Wed May 23 18:35you are seeing the elephant. This was applied to soldiers in the 19th century, when they had first experienced battle. It is OK to be glib, but do add some emoticons. Also don't make an idol of me.... more
- And once again....... clarym29, Wed May 23 20:41balance comes into play. It is hard to find fault with the little trite saying--all in moderation. That is a simple concept--except when one really takes it inside and mulls it over. Then it can... more
- We make the simple complex, adding entropy (nm) Baruch, Wed May 23 21:57
- Not sure that's it.... Frashavan, Tue May 22 07:41As I said to Baruch, my question runs deeper than mere attachment to illusions.
- Still Here by Ram Dass ... Baruch, Mon May 21 06:41if you are still working your own agenda, and if it is sufficiently idealistic, then futility is self-generated. If your only agenda is confined to s short horizon in time and space, then your... more
- Too glib... Frashavan, Tue May 22 05:29What I am trying to wrap my head around is the paradox; is the apparent meaninglessness of it all really just a veil for true meaning? Is it possible that, perhaps, the real meaning is that we are... more
- Life isn't meaningless, even for an aborted child ... Baruch, Tue May 22 18:40and I don't think that meaning is the callousness of the mother, or her desperate circumstances. One must escape modernity to have meaning, it is the illusion of modernity that sucks the meaning out... more
- I don't think it's meaningless, either Frashavan, Tue May 22 21:05But, sometimes I find I must fight against the feeling that they are... Right now, I'm at a low ebb (somewhat better than a few weeks ago; I took some time off work) and it's harder to find the... more
- Got Kierkegaard? (nm) Baruch, Tue May 22 06:56
- And what would Søren say about this? Frashavan, Wed May 23 07:36Do the sins of the Fathers descend unto unborn generations? Nazi legacy: The troubled descendants http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18120890#blq-nav-more-links
- Well if one sees Soren as the first theistic existentialist Baruch, Wed May 23 18:27... as the first Christian theologian to deal with the nihilism of modernity, one is left with a leap of faith. I disagree with him, because he was still haunted by his modernity, and I have purged... more
- Oh, existential crisis! Baruch, Tue May 22 06:39I will respond at length, but I have to go to work now. I work, therefore I am. Shalom
- But sai ram, Tue May 22 08:27where you go..is where you went.....where you went is who you are....existential indeed!.........sai ram.
- I think he is needing something a little less Indian ;-) (nm) Baruch, Tue May 22 18:23
- As Khyyam says... Frashavan, Sun May 20 19:52Lo! some we loved, the loveliest and best That Time and Fate of all their Vintage prest, Have drunk their Cup a Round or two before, And one by one crept silently to Rest.