BaruchOf course, part of the Templar legacy in Scotland ...Sat Jun 2, 2012 20:58126.96.36.199the Outre-Mere people, the Crusaders who weren't military tourists, came to know the Muslims and Jews quite well. Some of that insight got back to W Europe. Religion was quite competitive in the Middle Ages, not just with violence, but intellectually. Didn't take too much time for the Christians and Jews to react to the "up the ante" of the Muslim theology, including the nature of the Quran. America is part of Anglo-American Israelitism, and that goes directly back to Templars in Scotland and England with a detour thru Freemasonry. Yes, this has been sensationalized, but it isn't any less true. I read a book that said that Francis Bacon was part of the Illuminati, that proto-Masons funded Jamestown. As far as I can tell my first ancestor in N America was probably connected, arriving in Jamestown right after the Powhatan War in 1622, to take advantage of recently vacated plantation real estate. This ancestor was a grandson of a member of Parliament. Remember that one of the proposals for the early US, was that the official language should be Hebrew. That and the turkey as the national symbol ;-)
What made life difficult for Muslims, is having made improvements in religion, it fossilized under the Sunnah, only breaking out as Shia and Sufi heresy. Because of disasters in Europe, Christianity and Judaism were forced to continue to innovate.
- I have wondered if that is somewhat respeonsible for... Frashavan, Sat Jun 2 20:50...the absurd reverence that Americans have for the KJV, and for the written word of YHWH in general? A transference from the Koran, perhaps?
- Really don't think so. Mirage, Sun Jun 3 07:32The reverence for the KJV specifically I think has more to do with beauty of language. Not everyone likes the language. I know Susan isn't a fan and Jefferson hated the KJV enough to write his own... more
- And some people like older versions of scripture ... Baruch, Sun Jun 3 08:48simply because it sounds anachronistic ;-) thus the love for the Vulgate even among those who don't know Latin. Shalom
- Latin has a nice sound Mirage, Sun Jun 3 08:57There are so many bits of Latin in English I do suspect most people who like it get the gist of a lot of it anyway. Old sometimes symbolizes the eternal for people, too.
- Of course, part of the Templar legacy in Scotland ... Baruch, Sat Jun 2 20:58
- Can Partially Confirm Mirage, Sun Jun 3 07:54I have an ancestor who was in Jamestown, and he did apparently belong to a secret society referred to as The Enlightened but that may not have been the actual name of it. I am not sure how long it... more
- my wife and you sai ram, Mon Jun 4 08:49my wife is a descendant of Myles Standish....since he was a co-founder of Jamestown...you two could be related.....:)......sai ram
- Nice Mirage, Mon Jun 4 20:23I'm not directly descended from him but I too think it's very likely we're related. Small world, eh? :)
- I think you mean Plymouth (nm) Baruch, Mon Jun 4 20:06
- i'm bad sai ram, Mon Jun 4 23:16and history was my minor in College...well the founder of Jamestown had the first letter in his last name the same anyway with Mr. Standish.........sai ram