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Baruch
Please see quote by Marx near bottom of article ...
Fri Jun 29, 2012 03:52
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http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2012/06/28/the-looting-of-china-by-the-kleptokapitalist-bourgeoisie-roaders/

The quote is about agricultural economics vs city economics in the Roman Empire. Classicists are well aware of what happened with the brothers Gracchi. America like the Roman Republic it is modeled on, is probably going to fail because of success, leading to financial excess ... leading to Marius and Caesar ... military dictatorship.

You will also be interested, because Australia and Canada are highly dependent on this out of control positive feedback coming from China.

Shalom

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How to say racist and religious discriminatory remarks... — Kasey, Sat Jun 23 05:21

and get away with it on the basis that what is proposed couldn't happen in this or that country 'cause its against their laws, but generally it should apply where possible...see below: Regards, Kasey ... more
Objectivity is slippery ... a vike for Kasey — Baruch, Sun Jul 1 06:29

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2166917/We-DONT-colours-say-scientists-claim-persons-red-anothers-blue.html#ixzz1zLDmFgOm If you add synesthesia to that, then any two people don't have that... more
Please see quote by Marx near bottom of article ... — Baruch, Fri Jun 29 03:52
Today we use game theory ... — Baruch, Fri Jun 29 03:38

http://culturalengineer.blogspot.com/2012/06/issues-in-scaling-civlization-monsters.html Yesterday we used theology ... but both teach the same lesson ... the Seven Deadly Sins ... result in self... more
The reality of politics is a cartoon ... — Baruch, Tue Jun 26 17:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKuhNqi_2zc&feature=related Whether it is France + Germany, or Britain + US ... I won't comment as to which one of the pair is Brain and which one is Pinkey ;-) Shalom
Was looking for Day of the Triffids ... — Baruch, Sun Jun 24 20:07

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMohzKH1zyM Instead I found out that man eating plants became an Aussie music group. This is from the Black Swan album ... is this 1989 prophecy about the 2008... more
Beware unelected bureaucrats of the UN ... — Baruch, Sun Jun 24 07:01

or EU for that matter: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395 Well it is a balanced article. Basically Big Business and the UN are in agreement, that business should get whatever it wants,... more
On the other hand ... — Baruch, Sat Jun 23 08:23

I do want to state, that in my own moral compass, the idea of punishing people at all, for adopting a religion or leaving a religion or embracing atheism for that matter ... is a barbarism. What I... more
What progress originally means ... — Baruch, Sat Jun 23 08:29

it had a meaning in English royal tax collecting and demonstration of fealty. The barons would accumulate great wealth on landed estates. The central government had limited means of taxation. So the... more
Skirting Dutch hate crime law? — Baruch, Sat Jun 23 08:11

Probably should employ a Dutch woman barrister for that ;-) It is part of most Medieval law, including late Christian Roman law, that to solicit change of religion, or to choose change of religion,... more
the matter of intent of the speaker... — Kasey, Sun Jun 24 09:19

of the racist and religious discriminatory/lethal remarks still was "- but generally it should apply where-ever possible". The effects on those who would be on the receiving end of his comments could ... more
Where-ever possible? — Baruch, Sun Jun 24 11:40

I would contend it isn't possible anywhere in the modern world. Give all the fundies a time machine and send them 500 to 1000 years in the past ;-) There is a greater disruption from the idea of... more
Yet in Syira, the Sunnis are leading the revolt... — Kasey, Tue Jun 26 03:27

against the Assad regime which represents mainly the Alawis, Christian groups and the Druze religions. The fervour of the Sunnis has even extended to Melbourne Australia, where a call has gone out... more
You forget colonial history ... — Baruch, Tue Jun 26 06:58

Sunnis a are a minority in Iraq, so the British put them in power over the Shia majority. Kurds etal were the additional minorities there. The Alawites are a minority in Syria, so the French put them ... more
When minority groups take power... — Kasey, Tue Jun 26 20:38

for their own self-preservation ahead of any single religious majority, when both groups vote on the basis of religion or religious alliances rather than proposed political policies, it's hard to see ... more
The Assads (father/son) didn't have to kill people — Baruch, Tue Jun 26 23:08

they chose to. Dictatorship doesn't allow much other choice. As far as evening things up ... are you an apologist for Mission Civilatrice? Are you opposed to majorities? Of course religious tolerance ... more
The Sunni factor wouldn't wait for any slow change... — Kasey, Wed Jun 27 06:20

to democratic reforms....and anyway they don't want that type anyway...[after the cleansing is over if it ever happens], a theocratic-pseudo democracy a la the Malaysian model would suit them fine.... more
All democracy is pseudo ... — Baruch, Thu Jun 28 16:53

just look at the US and W Europe. Did Italy or Greece choose their recent leaders (well Greece did get another chance, and chose the one the Troika wanted). Shalom
Have you got any lent to the Greeks??? (nm) — Kasey, Thu Jun 28 22:28

Having visited Greece in 1983 ... — Baruch, Fri Jun 29 03:13

I would know better than to lend to Greeks ;-) Unfortunately, American creditors as well as international creditors, who expect to be bailed by the US taxpayer (we bailed 14 trillion in 2008/2009,... more
Also, you you looked at the latest videos.... — Kasey, Thu Jun 28 22:34

by Pat Condell and Robert Spencer, on "The real truth about Islam" It seems to me that everyone should have a look and listen..think about what is fact and what is not....then consider what you would ... more
Sorry, no I haven't ... — Baruch, Fri Jun 29 03:14

I find Pat Condell too strident and prejudiced. When will he make a video condemning Queen E II? Shalom
Thaat's a shame you have such a negative attitude on.. — Kasey, Fri Jun 29 05:36

this topic both have presented. While both videos do seem to be critical, it seems well founded...in fact what is said seems irrefutable. On that basis these and others in that area do sound a dire... more
Misunderstanding ... — Baruch, Fri Jun 29 10:36

I don't criticize them for being critical of political Islam. I criticize all politics myself. I recognize it is hard, since many Muslims don't separate politics from religion ... how can their... more
Awareness of the facts about any particular item should not. — Kasey, Sat Jun 30 03:35

always be seen as criticism. That may come later if it is deemed to be necessary as a means of adjustment where and if necessary. In the case with Islam, much of what both men are saying is not even... more
Actual facts, not blowhards ... — Baruch, Sat Jun 30 07:42

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18657463 Muslim on Muslim religious oppression in Africa. This is the Wahhabist part of the Salafist movement ... All Saudi Arabia all the time (as per House of ... more
Awareness yes, obsession no (nm) — Baruch, Sat Jun 30 05:27

Error correction 2nd paragraph ... — Baruch, Sat Jun 23 08:15

"that is now the law in the Netherlands" should read "that is not the law in the Netherlands" ... hate it when a typo reverses my intent ;-( Shalom
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