ipirate2Re: For a monotheist, obviously both ...Thu Jul 5, 2012 20:3722.214.171.124Interesting. Especially the Gnostic aspect but I am not sure it any of us would use the word complete.
When I tell people about my apotheosis, I quickly point out that I am using that word to say that I just reached the first rung of Jacob's ladder even though I could not tell exactly which rung I was reaching and that the seeking is not ever to end. I raised the bar and started afresh.
I have always wondered how hero myths became universal and now all the various tribes and diverse people and religions use the snake so universally. Gilgamesh passing that notion down in the east I can understand but wonder how in hell it was used in the same basic way in South America when no evidence is about of anyone from the east crossing the ocean and passing on that folklore here. That and the pyramids.
That is the kind of wondering that helped me push my apotheosis.
Then again, they found cocain in mummies. Hmm.
- For a monotheist, obviously both ... Baruch, Thu Jul 5 18:18I mean monotheist, in the sense of metaphysical monism ... not the innumerate versions that have more than one god (devil etc). I can agree that G-d knows both sides of creation, being the Creator... more
- All theoretical speculation based ona fundamental assumption (nm Kasey, Fri Jul 6 03:13
- More than one assumption usually ... Baruch, Fri Jul 6 07:43while empirical backing is a good thing, that empirical data has to be interpreted. And the interpretation of data, from say the LHC, is a very complicated business. Of course in that case, no less... more
- How do you have more than one assumption.... Kasey, Fri Jul 6 08:48that a creator god, by whatever name, actually exists? Regards, Kasey
- Lecture on QM by Google software engineer ... Baruch, Fri Jul 6 11:33http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaecUuEqfc This covers the present "spookiness" of QM. There is something illogical about the conventional understanding of QM, and he has a go at determining what the ... more
- Most of the lecture is based on photons ... Baruch, Fri Jul 6 12:32and photons have really odd behavior compared to ordinary matter like electrons. In classical mechanics, if you try to deal with EM waves, you end up with infinities (this also happens with rest mass ... more
- Do you regard any assumption as a theory??? (nm) Kasey, Sat Jul 7 03:27
- Definitions ... Baruch, Sat Jul 7 06:56Per Physics: hypothesis = concept developed by the imagination, that is potentially repeatable, quantifiable and confirmable by public observation, Higgs boson for example theory = hypothesis... more
- And for a god or gods assumption???? (nm) Kasey, Sat Jul 7 09:09
- End of lecture ... Baruch, Fri Jul 6 12:13it applies to consciousness, just as the Schroedinger's Cat thought experiment applies to what consciousness is in a non-sensical way. In summary, human consciousness is a Turing Computer simulation... more
- Theology is a branch of Metaphysics ... Baruch, Fri Jul 6 09:48just as Quantum Theory is a branch of Physics ;-) What is common to both situations is that we have some data, which in general might be either rational nor quantitative (what I dreamed last night)... more
- Mathematicians are idealists too ... Baruch, Fri Jul 6 08:06The Langlands program is the mathematicians equivalent of the on-going physics program of elementary particle unification that the LHC provides data for.... more
- Actual LHC chart ... Baruch, Fri Jul 6 07:55http://vixra.org/Combo/ Notice the peak of "geiger counts" around 125 Gev. An atom smasher experimental array (such as ATLAS) is a very large, very complicated version of a Geiger counter. It takes... more
- Re: For a monotheist, obviously both ... ipirate2, Thu Jul 5 20:37
- There were cross-ocean communications ... Baruch, Thu Jul 5 22:08long before Columbus. But on the more metaphysical point ... this is why people like Jung believe in a collective unconscious ... though he stole the idea from Buddhism ... where it is the... more
- Re: There were cross-ocean communications ... ipirate2, Sun Jul 8 08:53Every hero has to have something to overcome. "and we no longer regard one side better than another." It may be that I will never reach a higher consciousness then as even as I recognize the worth of ... more
- Self-transcendence .... Baruch, Sun Jul 8 09:40http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_gene Well this may account for the ability of children to see circles and squares as personalities ... but not why adults loose the ability to fantasize or empathize. ... more
- Re: Self-transcendence .... ipirate2, Sun Jul 8 09:47I do not think we lose it. We just choose to compete instead of cooperate. That may be tied to our greed or insecurity. Regards DL
- Great disappointment ... Baruch, Sun Jul 8 09:30nobody ever asked me what my line of classical Chinese verse meant ;-( Philistines, surrounded by Philistines! Shalom
- Several ideas ... Baruch, Sun Jul 8 09:281. The goal is equanimity, to not be overly motivated by good and overly turned off by bad 2. It takes parents several years to corrupt their preschoolers 3. Replace all the bankers and politicians... more
- Re: Several ideas ... ipirate2, Sun Jul 8 09:58I do not dislike God either but as a Gnostic, it is my duty to set the God I found aside, raise the bar of my expectations and try to find a better one. To not do so is idol worship. Regards DL
- For me at this stage of my life ... Baruch, Sun Jul 8 13:12I have gone from better to better in my conception of G-d, ever since I first seriously thought about the subject over 40 years ago. But the highest I have gotten so far, is to try to do good, even... more
- Re: For me at this stage of my life ... ipirate2, Sun Jul 8 13:49We walk in the same direction my friend. Regards DL
- It may be a platitude ... Baruch, Sun Jul 8 17:21but we are walking toward the light, not the darkness. We may have to put up with a few clouds, even thunderstorms, awhile yet. Shalom