BaruchThis is part of the false dichotomy ....Thu Jul 12, 2012 18:0868.92.112.194between rabbinic Judaism and early Christianity. For rabbinic Jews, G-d loves the righteous ... for hellenized Jews, G-d loves the unrighteous ... because hellenized Jews were Jews who by location outside of Palestine, and because of creating Judeo-Greek, and because of cultural and religious syncretism, have moved outside of the kosher system of the rabbinic Jews. Both systems were created in parallel at the same time in the 1st to 4th century CE. The kosher system though is compatible with Hinduism. The anti-kosher system though is compatible with Buddhism. Two thousand years ago, Buddhism and Hinduism were still separating from each other, a 1000 year process from 500 BCE to 500 CE. Since I see things historically rather than ideologically, I can't express moral life the way you do. As a kind of hellenized Jew, I have a sympathy for hellenistic Jewish values. Emperor Ashoka of India accomplished around 250 BCE a unification based on a novel religion (Buddhism) what Emperor Constantine copied 600 years later around 350 CE using Christianity. Failure of peripheral vision in time and space, creates its own narrow delusion, tunnel vision. There is a rabbinic synagogue in S India from 600 BCE, but the eastern end of hellenized Judaism was in N India, where Greek and Aramaic mixed freely on top of the local dialect of Sanskrit.
So based on the specific religious-political needs of the first hellenized Jews (they were first exterminated by the Romans along with the rabbinic Jews, later absorbed into Gentile Christianity). Their second coming was from the secular liberation of rabbinic Jews 200 years ago, many of these speaking a similar hybrid language to Judeo-Greek, which is Judeo-German aka Yiddish. When hellenistic Judaism was eliminated around 400 CE, leaving only rabbinic Judaism on the field, their specific needs had been converted into universal dogma by the Gentile Christians. The dogma you summarize is this universalism ... what was once Judeo-Greek became Vulgar Latin.
Shalom
God loves the evil ones more than the good because he is the ipirate2, Thu Jul 12 09:02God loves the evil ones more than the good because he is the greatest sinner. This love of sinners is the hinge pin on which his benevolent qualities depend and without evil and sin, God could never... more
Alan Watts as a religious humanist ... Baruch, Sun Jul 22 01:27Autobiography speech ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN8uWb053Ig&feature=watch_response He mentions three religious cosmologies ... there are more than that of course. I join with him in being a... more
Re: Alan Watts as a religious humanist ... ipirate2, Tue Jul 24 14:15I have listened to some of his work and have some respect for his thinking. I shall check this one out. Thanks. Regards DL
The best part is ... Baruch, Tue Jul 24 22:17he wanted to be an evil Chinese villain as a British boy ... like Dr Fu Manchu. Shunryu Suzuki, an actual Zen master, called him a bodhisattva. Shalom
Re: The best part is ... ipirate2, Wed Jul 25 08:00Quite the ambition. Philosophy would have lost out if he had. Regards DL Aside from reconstructed cultural history ... Baruch, Thu Jul 12 22:23my direct take on your topic is quite different, since I observe from daily experience, rather than from scripture. I can find scripture inspiring, but i don't find it to be true, it is a human... more
Re: Aside from reconstructed cultural history ... ipirate2, Fri Jul 13 11:00I never expect my logic and reason to agree with most of what is said by the writers of scriptures including Paul’s. “I see no evidence of any form of substitutionary atonement, except among crazy... more- This is part of the false dichotomy .... Baruch, Thu Jul 12 18:08
Who would really know what it [as an entity]...has ever..... Kasey, Sat Jul 14 22:42indicated via voice or the written word inwhatever language? All a matter of supposition by indoctrinated or hallucinated believers. And as for the time before the dinosaurs, again who knows?... more
I am just as modern as you ... Baruch, Sun Jul 15 00:02the standard model of ... divine revelation to someone in the past, then often followers not even the prophet, wrote down what was revealed in words or signs ... and years and millenia afterward,... more Re: This is part of the false dichotomy .... ipirate2, Fri Jul 13 10:50I am certainly upgrading my history. Thanks. Regards DL
