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Nearly 1000 New Yorkers Arrested Under SAFE Act
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Nearly 1000 New Yorkers Arrested Under SAFE Act - By Robert Farago on November 29, 2013 - http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/author/robert-farago/
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“Nearly 1,000 people have been charged under the NY Safe Act in the eight months since the tougher gun control law was passed, according to the state’s Division of Criminal Justice Services,” syracuse.com reports. “Nearly 90 percent were accused of a crime that pre-dates the new act – including having a sawed-off long gun or an unregistered pistol – but was elevated to a felony when the Safe Act went on the books Jan. 15. The arrests dealing with the more controversial portions of the Safe Act, including possession of a large capacity magazine or a newly defined ‘assault weapon,’ are far fewer . . . Across the state, 20 people have been charged with this misdemeanor . . . seven people have been charged with failing to register their assault weapons.” This despite the fact that the law breakers still have until January 15th, 2014 to get rid of their banned “high capacity” magazines and until April 15th, 2014 to register their “assault rifles.” Imagine the fun when the deadlines expire. [h/t OneIfByLand]

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86 Responses to Nearly 1000 New Yorkers Arrested Under SAFE Act

avatarbenny says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:04
I see a pot that’s about to boil over….
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avatargloomhound says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:17
Nothing will happen. People will lay down and take it.
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avatarjoe says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:33
well they didnt gradually raise the heat so maybe the frog will jump out
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avatarJohn Fritz says:
November 29, 2013 at 15:19
“… People will lay down and take it. ”

Exactly. It’s not time yet unfortunately. Conditions aren’t bad enough. The boot on everyone’s neck isn’t getting pressed hard enough.

How many gun owners will risk losing their house, having their kids taken away, losing their job, on and on.

I’ll field that one. Not too damn many.
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avatarjwm says:
November 29, 2013 at 15:24
Exactly. You’re not going to get a rebellion or widespread civil disorder because of mag limits and what type of rifle you can own. You can have a wide variety of shotguns and rifles in NY and CA. It’s going to be hard to convince well fed and comfortable people to rebel over AR’s.
avatarDave says:
November 29, 2013 at 16:01
What the hell is there to stop someone from taking your job, children, freedom, life away from you when you willingly give up your means to defend such things? Maybe I should move to NY and open a school for tactical defense and knife fighting skills. . . >_>
avatarPat says:
November 29, 2013 at 19:49
If they come knocking, don’t answer the door. If they kick it in, shoot the pork of the porch.
avatarRoss says:
November 29, 2013 at 15:34
Drawing a line in the sand is very easy when it’s just words…..
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avatarMurry Ferris says:
November 30, 2013 at 10:53
Are you suggesting that there is folks in NY don’t have the right to do what the conservatives in Colorado did? Colorado gun rights supporters recalled State Senator John Morse (D), State Senator Angela Giron (D), and forced State Senator Evie Hudak to resign just yesterday. The state’s Democratic party now fears a GOP sweep in November 2014. It is Hudak who claims “for every one woman who used a gun to kill in self defense 83 were murdered by them.” No reply when asked where she got the data.
Hey NY… it’s time to vote them “gone”.
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avatarMark says:
November 30, 2013 at 16:13
I agree with gloomhound, no one will do squat. The people in NY have to deal with this at the street level. Whatever agency is enforcing this needs to be dealt with on an individual basis. I needs to be more expensive for them to do this than to oppress the people thus.
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avatarJosh83 says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:04
How can they be in violation of a law that is not in effect?
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avatarjoe says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:06
was wondering same thing, maybe some had to be charged to challenge it so it is all a trick maybe?
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avatarSteve says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:09
You’re asking liberals to make sense AND follow the law.

If this turns out to be true, man their lawyers are going to have a field day, and earn some decent money off lawsuits for unlawful arrests.
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avatar-Peter says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:35
I may be wrong, but I think posession of standard capacity mags was made unlawful almost immediately upon passage of the bill, but the Jan 15th deadline was for getting rid of the mags entirely. So maybe the people charged were actually caught in possession or use of banned mags?
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avatarJus Bill says:
November 29, 2013 at 18:22
So if that’s true, aren’t they being snagged by double jeopardy?
avatarJOHN says:
November 30, 2013 at 05:20
a friend just returning from Afghanistan told me to duct tape two legal ammo clips back to back so it is real long………….its a terrible thing to have to reload in the middle of a gunfight. or will they outlaw duct tape next along with butcher knives? make the clips taped end to end in a way that you just hit the clip ejector and flip it over. now you back in the game in two seconds.
avatarRoscoe says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:28
Consider the source of the story; how accurate is the government at providing all the facts, and how good is the news media at getting it right, particularly in light of all the left leaning slant the apply.

Both have tenuous track records at best.
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avatarStephan Jarrett says:
November 29, 2013 at 19:19
It’s ny?
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avatarHannibal says:
November 29, 2013 at 20:06
The article in the syracuse makes more sense than the blurb here on TTAG, which over-simplifies things a little: “Others interpret that part of the law differently. Certain large capacity magazines are now unlawful under the Safe Act, though owners have until Jan. 15 to get rid of them. And, people caught with a large magazine can have an extra 30 days to get rid of it to avoid the misdemeanor.”

The bottom line, though, is that the law is so stupidly complicated (like the rest of NY’s gun laws) that you can put different ‘experts’ in a room and get different legal opinions.
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avatarD Drake says:
November 29, 2013 at 21:53
It is a Fascist Nazi Police State…New York.
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avatarjoe says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:05
the “fun” really isn’t gonna be fun for either side
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avataranon says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:06
How are they being charged before the deadline…?
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avatarJay in Florida says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:17
NYS and Cuomo can go F$% themselves.
I feel bad for the folks who, through no fault of their own are stuck there.
To me having a home or employment is no real reason to stay,
I got out.
So can the rest if they want to for the most part.
Its get involved politically.
A lot of civil disobedience is called for, or get out of the state,
That is the way I now feel.
I wouldn’t put up with any of the safe act.
As I have no family.
I would be willing to suffer the consciences of whatever may happen to me.
Or whatever happens to who ever tries to stop me.
The laws as they now stand are plainly unconstitutional and I wouldn’t wait around for the courts to change anything.
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avatarEastern Oregon Guy says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:19
I have to ask the same question. How are they being charged before the law takes effect? Also while people have made comments that others are just going to roll over and take it the question comes to my mind. What if something this freedom robbing was introduced at a Federal level ? Would everyone roll over and take it or would this be the last straw for some ?
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avatarjoe says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:32
it already may be the last straw for some, maybe more then we think.
just because you bury your guns doesn’t mean you still have them
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avatar(Formerly) MN Matt says:
November 29, 2013 at 17:29
If something like this happened at the federal level, I suspect the amount of conversations on the interwebs would drop considerably. There would be much less taking, hopefully a lot more doing.

I was contemplating this question when I lived in MN, when in the midst of the lemming rush to Do Something! our state legislators were considering an AWB and other ridiculous measures. If it had passed, I had a good idea of how I’d handle it. And that plan involved a much stricter filter over what I say and where.
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avatarJus Bill says:
November 29, 2013 at 18:24
Yeah, I think I’d be posting a lot of pretty pictures for people to see.
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avatarExcedrine says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:33
I see a lot of lawsuits on the horizon and, unfortunately, I fear that NYS will win every single one of them.
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avatarHannibal says:
November 29, 2013 at 20:07
There’s a few in the works. People interested can follow them, among other places, at http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/laws-politics/.
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avatarExcedrine says:
November 29, 2013 at 20:32
I’m sure there are, but the plaintiffs are going to lose. Rarely if ever does one successfully sue the State over infringement of civil rights.
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avatarBob5 says:
November 30, 2013 at 01:29
Especially now that Democrats in the Senate have granted Obama the power to appoint any one he wants to be a judge in the top federal courts.
avatarBilly Francis says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:43
MFERS….Can’t wait to move out of this hell hole
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avatarstateisevil says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:46
I hope the people of the state organize and start braining the aggressors. It won’t come to pass, but it would be pretty cool. I’d donate $ to see it happen. Nazi Yorkers will instead lick boots.
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avatarJeh says:
November 29, 2013 at 14:54
The fact that even the police use the term ‘assault weapon’ shows how little NYC-ers know about firearms.
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avatarAdam says:
November 29, 2013 at 15:05
I think what the story is conveying is that most of the people who have been arrested were already breaking NY law prior to the SAFE act. (i.e. owning illegal weapons like sawed offs and unregistered handguns) But when the safe act passed it made those crimes felonies so now the police are actually arresting them instead of citing them for a misdemeanor.

Now this doesn’t fix the fact that the laws before SAFE were crappy for NY gun owners and SAFE only made them worse. But I think it skews the facts a little in that the mojority of people who this article is referencing were already in violation of pre-Safe act law, the punishment for it just got worse under the SAFE act. Either way the whole slate of laws there in NY sucks.
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avatarTom says:
November 29, 2013 at 16:11
I’m not leaving, nor am I handing anything over to the State. I’m digging in, stocking up, and planning. I’m not the only one. Organizing a local “Neighborhood watch”. Confiscation will be extremely bloody and the loss of life great for those who wish to violate the Constitution. Waco and Ruby Ridge were armed responses to Government sticking its nose where it did not belong.

When ever a terrorist attack happens, we are asked not to blame all Muslims for the terrible actions of a few, Well I think it’s about time 80+ Million Law abiding fire arms owners in America got the same break.
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avatarPaul Kanesky says:
November 29, 2013 at 16:23
I wonder how many of the 1000 people arrested and charged have a prior criminal record?
Paul in Texas
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avatarAdolph says:
November 29, 2013 at 16:30
YOU DO AS YOU’RE TOLD! YOU DO IT NOW…GO! GO!
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avatarjoe wallace says:
November 29, 2013 at 16:32
YOU DO AS YOU’RE TOLD! YOU DO IT NOW! GO! GO!
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avatarHoser says:
November 29, 2013 at 16:58
New York is one Messed-up City. If NY Cops are not careful, they will end up dying of lead poisoning. If Citizens give-up their guns, they will become Subjects. Which is exactly what London wants. Where do you think your taxes go?
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avatarJus Bill says:
November 29, 2013 at 18:28
You would be utterly amazed how many hidey-holes there are in any large city. I think I could make an MRAP disappear given a day or so. Something smaller – minutes.
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avatarBigDaddy says:
November 29, 2013 at 17:03
a lot of big talkers in upstate NY (where I live) about not registering. personally, of all the people I know, they say they won’t register but when it comes down to it, they will. losing your job or your freedom is not worth not registering.

I’m spending the thanksgiving weekend sending out resumes. the very best way to get my message heard in Albany is to move out of new York. They will no longer have my state income tax or any of the money I spend to live here. That will hurt them where it counts.
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avatarBlue says:
November 29, 2013 at 17:11
I may leave NY, but you can bet hell will freeze over and ice skating occurring before I ever register a damn thing in Florida.
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avatarMatt in FL says:
November 30, 2013 at 02:34
What guns?
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avatarEarl says:
November 29, 2013 at 17:22
How many go to trial? How much is this just used for pleas to a lesser offense? One thousand trials are expensive.
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avatarJoel says:
November 29, 2013 at 17:24
The REAL question is: “Why is anybody still living in New York?”
If people have been willing to put up with New York’s out-of-control regulations and burdensome taxes thus far, they won’t ever find enough reason to move. And soon, their opportunity to use their freedom of mobility–and to vote with their feet by relocating elsewhere–will be gone…for New York can’t afford to let everyone escape that situation…I mean, who would subsidize the socialism if you weren’t there?
The fact is, you all should have gotten out of there before now. With the millions of ex-New Yorkers who successfully had made their exodus now gone, there are fewer of you taxpayers that are going to have to pay more…and more…and more each year to keep that state afloat. Soon, you too will be needing food stamps and government assistance…you can count on it. The home you own, you’ll one day be renting. Hello, sharecropper.
For those smart enough to see the door closing to escape and to move to places of liberty, you had better jump on it. We welcome all liberty lovers here in the south…just don’t bring your liberal ideologies with you–learn from the mess your representatives’ policies have made in places like NY and CA and IL.
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avatarBillF says:
November 29, 2013 at 17:30
I know a 20 something year old ki

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