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Ed Gilbert
bodies "sunk in place"
Sun Apr 2, 2017 08:30
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The bodies sunk in place were only ones that had washed well out into the lagoon, past the lip of the dished reef edge. When bodies were too badly decomposed it was impossible to recover them from the water; attempting recovery just made them fall apart. Some years ago I was granted access to a special collection of photos deemed too grisly to allow general access, mainly because publication would cause distress for anyone who recognized a person, and frankly because there are people who get off on such things (or so I was told). There was indeed some pretty awful stuff in there, including KIAs and wounds.

The chaplains kept notes on all they knew about the bodies, locations et cetera, but they are not very informative even if preserved.

At any rate I agree that the majority were probably buried on the island. You might get an estimate of lost bodies just from MIAs, but that still would not get you to an estimate of those KIA in the water.

  • Marines killed in waterClay Bonnyman Evans, Sun Apr 2 07:52
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    • As of today, the "Master Tarawa Casualty Database" used by researchers and investigators of the Chief Rick Stone and Family Charitable Foundation to assist the families of Tarawa MIA's, estimates the ... more
    • bodies "sunk in place" — Ed Gilbert, Sun Apr 2 08:30
      • Re: bodies "sunk in place"George E Proulx, Tue Nov 28 19:05
        Where is this photo collection Ed and how might I be granted access? I only wish to view the background in each photo if it exists. Thanks, George
      • Marines killed in water Clay Bonnyman Evans, Sun Apr 2 10:41
        I can certainly see that bodies found floating in the lagoon beyond the reef might have been sunk, though of course there are many, many reports of Navy personnel using hooks to retrieve remains from ... more
        • Ponchos etc.matt holly, Wed Nov 29 00:33
          The ponchos makes another interesting sub-group of potential ID's from those such recoveries. It may also help date the loss, and thus help verify the ID of the MIA. Good info. I have also read in... more
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