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stakeholders
Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:17am

PacifiCorp is at the negotiation table. A large off project group encompassing 150,000 acres is denied being at the negotiation tables because they oppose dam removal and the KBRA as written; they would like changes. A new small group, begun by a woman who married a rancher and went into an easement with the Klamath Tribes and Sustainable NW, is at the PacifiCorp table and also the KBRA table. Her little group of 2000 acres of course is allowed at both tables.
Here is our stakeholder page:
http://www.klamathbasincrisis.org/settlement/kbra_organizations.htm

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  • TU article still online — Toni Thayer, Mon Apr 20 11:03pm
    I found one of my Trout Unlimited articles still online, written, I believe, in the summer of 2005. Trout Unlimited (TU) was originally started in 1959 near Grayling, Mich. by 16 fishermen who were... more
    • Interesting stuff; interesting "players...." — Buster Keester, Tue Apr 21 9:06am
      players like Credit Suisse and their financing of "high roller resorts" in Montana, Idaho, and Utah.... check out earlier postings made around February-March 2009 Interesting that Pacific Power does... more
      • "Players" in today's news!!!!...... — Buster Keester, Wed Apr 22 9:31am
        as Credit Suisse and others work things out in Montana: http://www.newwest.net/city/article/yellowstone_club_tim_blixseth_credit_suisse_on_trial/C396/L396/ Ah the high rolling life.....
        • Nice bunch — Toni Thayer, Wed Apr 22 5:04pm
          Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks! This is the kind of development I was wondering about in the Klamath area.
          • Turnin Lemons into LEMONADE.... — Buster Keester, Thu Apr 23 9:40am
            what a difference a year makes: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/business/global/24suisse.html?_r=1&ref=business They are laughing all the way to the bank..... hey, waitaminute, they ARE the... more
      • Pondering if Hydropower is "renewable...." — Buster Keester, Tue Apr 21 9:48am
        a couple of recent articles: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/kennewick_pasco_richland/story/550830.html http://www.greatfallstribune.com/article/20090421/OPINION01/904210306/1014/OPINION The beat goes... more
    • From the TU article — Toni, Tue Apr 21 1:54am
      The message is the same as with the Grand Canyon Trust, (although they have a new board of directors today, the group's still following their agenda). Below are the keywords for the TU leaders, this... more
    • Hmmm . . . — Toni Thayer, Mon Apr 20 11:43pm
      Doing some looking. What counties are involved in your Klamath issue, both Oregon and California ones?
      • counties — KBC, Tue Apr 21 9:49am
        Klamath, Siskiyou and Modoc. Klamath County is at the table again. The county took the commissioner off the table because he was involved in secret negotiations he was not allowed to share with his... more
        • Re: counties — nunyabidness, Sun Apr 26 2:12pm
          Siskiyou County is "at the table" on the Agreement in Principle. They want to assure that robust, credible scientific study is done on the human and environmental impacts of potential dam removal. At ... more
          • Re: counties — 76631, Tue Apr 28 8:40am
            Just a thought void of any research: Would dam removal and the resultant sediment spew be in violation of the Clean Water Act?
            • Re: counties — 76631, Wed Apr 29 4:05pm
              But alas, "they" only follow the laws that they want to, as "they" are the law. That is the base line problem isn't it?
          • Why?? — Toni, Mon Apr 27 7:55pm
            Why haven't the County's recommendations been addressed?
        • Purchases — Toni Thayer, Tue Apr 21 11:50am
          Interesting . . . I'm gonna look at the county records (hopefully, they are online) to see who is buying up property there.
      • Nevermind, but new questions — Toni, Tue Apr 21 12:57am
        Oops, nevermind on the request for counties . . . they're on the Privileged "Secret" List. Is this a geographic area that builds weather that moves into other states? Have these "stakeholders"... more
        • Re: Nevermind, but new questions — nunyabidness, Sun Apr 26 2:14pm
          Many of the homes around Copco are now for sale, but no one is buying. PacificPower owns the land under the reservoirs and much of the adjacent flood plain.
        • response to stakeholder questions — KBC, Tue Apr 21 10:11am
          It's the Klamath River watershed Stakeholders have been identified but have not publicly stated why they are involved. Regarding big developers, not that we can see. However The Nature Conservancy... more
          • Walton — Toni Thayer, Tue Apr 21 2:50pm
            I wondered about Sam Walton. He is actually Sam Walton Jr, who, along with his siblings, inherited Wal-Mart and Costco. He's the grandson of the founder. He moved to Flagstaff around 1999-2000 and... more
    • Energy — Toni, Mon Apr 20 11:13pm
      After reading this article again for the first time in a loooonggg time, I'm reminded that I've always intuitively "felt" that the real issue with Klamath centers around energy, not water rights.... more
      • stakeholders — KBC, Tue Apr 21 10:17am
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