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jim lynch
Re: BTK Pistol
Fri Jan 20, 2012 22:56
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I was raised in NM and I never walked around the desert at night without boots on.I hate snakes. On the other hand I went barefoot around the house and patio without worry.Billy felt safe in the Maxwell house and wherever his boots were, he expected to return there asap.To carry a gun down to the kitchen at midnight is ridiculous.And if you were on guard as the two on the porch were, would you let an armed man approach you? If Billy could see them, they could see Billy.And where did the gun walk off to? The whole thing was to make Garrett look legal.

  • Re: BTK PistolLucas Speer, Fri Jan 20 22:27
    Jim, I believe that if Billy didn't have a gun, then he was not near as bright as most folks believe he was. He had already been ambushed in Fort Sumner on December 19, 1880 by Pat Garrett and his... more
    • Re: BTK Pistol — jim lynch, Fri Jan 20 22:56
      • I agree. Billy was simply goingmizscarlett43, Sat Jan 21 03:48
        from one part of the house (Paulita's bedroom) to the kitchen via the portal and had put his socks back on--as well as his pants and shirt, of course--so he wouldn't be getting back into Paulita's... more
        • Re: I agree. Billy was simply goingLucas Speer, Sat Jan 21 04:27
          I guess I will just have to respectfully disagree with you two on this matter. Billy had just killed two cops, had just barely escaped the hangman's noose, had a price on his head, and had already... more
          • Poe & McKinneyDonna Tatting, Sat Jan 21 09:52
            We have to keep in mind that according to all accounts, neither Poe nor McKinney had ever seen Billy and didn't know what he looked like. And after all, Billy wasn't the only Anglo in the place I'm... more
            • re: poe and mckinnyljm, Sun Jan 22 13:58
              I agree Donna, why oh why didn't he head to Mexico while he had the chance
              • I really don't understand youmizscarlett43, Mon Jan 23 09:10
                guys and your wish for one of the world's great legends to have lived an ordinary, boring--and completely anonymous -- life. Sounds more like a curse to me.
            • Re: Poe & McKinneyLucas Speer, Sat Jan 21 13:50
              I agree with you Donna regarding why they didn't draw on him. I also believe that Pete Maxwell sold Billy out to Garrett and I don't believe that they were there entirely by accident. Yes, indeed... more
            • Poe had never seen Billy before,mizscarlett43, Sat Jan 21 12:51
              but hadn't McKinney been in the hog-raising business with Garrett in Ft. Sumner before Garrett moved to Roswell (I think it was) so he could run for sheriff of Lincoln County, Ft. Sumner being then... more
              • Re: Poe had never seen Billy before,Donna Tatting, Sat Jan 21 14:15
                In Garrett's account he states: "The Kid was entirely unknown to either of them" The them being Poe and McKinney. Poe also had stated that he had never seen or met Pete Maxwell either. In Nolan's... more
              • Re: Poe had never seen Billy before,Lucas Speer, Sat Jan 21 13:52
                I also love the movie Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid! When I was younger I thought it moved too slowly, but the older I get the more I appreciate Peckinpah's masterpiece.
          • Lucas, all due respect but Imizscarlett43, Sat Jan 21 05:32
            think to characterize Bell and especially Olinger as "cops" in the modern sense is entirely inaccurate. Back then they'd stick a badge on just about anyone who could handle a gun and was willing to... more
            • Re: Lucas, all due respect but IChris Lampe, Mon Jan 23 08:59
              I have to say that there is no way I would call Pat Garrett a coward. Going out and hunting outlaws who are known killers is not something a coward would do. I think the key to staying alive as a... more
              • I think the point Jacobsen was makingmizscarlett43, Mon Jan 23 09:33
                was that Garrett shot from ambush whenever possible--Stinking Springs being the perfect example. ********* But see here, Chris Lampe: I don't think we're ever going to agree about much of anything re ... more
                • Re: I think the point Jacobsen was makingChris Lampe, Tue Jan 24 11:08
                  "was that Garrett shot from ambush whenever possible--Stinking Springs being the perfect example" Bonney, Middleton, Waite, French, McNab & Brown killd Brady and Hindman from ambush. Bonney took Bell ... more
                  • Re: I think the point Jacobsen was makingLucas Speer, Tue Jan 24 15:40
                    I agree with you 100 percent! Billy killed Brady and Hindman from a concealed hiding place. If Garrett was a coward then we certainly would have to place Billy in the same category by these... more
                    • Warjim lynch, Tue Jan 24 15:57
                      I think one point you and Chris are mising is that there was a war going on in Lincoln County. You certainly don't warn the Taliban when you about to off them.No such thing was happening in Ft Sumner.
          • Re: I agree. Billy was simply goingLucas Speer, Sat Jan 21 04:29
            By the way I do enjoy the debate and hearing everyone's varied thoughts and opinions. That is what makes these discussion board fun.
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