Christopher BlackwellFaith is believing without proofThu Feb 10, 2011 9:08am220.127.116.11Faith,
Belief proves nothing, no matter how strong.
- faith is knowing something with confidence Faith, Thu Feb 10 6:04ameven though you can't prove it... You seem to be saying that nothing we *believe* by faith can be the truth. Sorry, Donk....but I can't find any support for that notion. Just because there are many... more
- Faith is believing without proof Christopher Blackwell, Thu Feb 10 9:08am
- faith is a sure confidence Faith, Thu Feb 10 9:14amthat what they believe in is the truth--even though they can't prove it to others. It requires evidences and confirmations...that without, there would be no faith.
- Faith is no such thing. You're redefining words to suit your Moraith, Thu Feb 10 6:26ampurpose again. There isn't a definition I've found that says faith is anything like knowing something with confidence. If it were known faith would be arbitrary.
- Precisely. Faith =/= knowledge. Poppet, Thu Feb 10 7:52amThere are people who seem to think it's okay to employ their own made-up lexicon. It's not only self-serving and disingenuous, it makes conversation difficult if not impossible, as if the parties... more
- Indeed. It's quite frustrating Moraith, Thu Feb 10 8:51amand gives off a Wonderland type atmosphere: 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'
- sorry Moriath...but I answer to a higher power Faith, Thu Feb 10 6:40amFaith is what you call it only because you can't prove it. The more evidence there is to your belief, the stronger the faith...or confidence in that belief. Hebrews 11 Faith in Action... 1 Now faith... more
- You can't prove it either. Moraith, Thu Feb 10 7:37amIf you're going to use the same language as the rest of us, it is important that we use words with the common definition of those words to avoid confusion. If you are going to define words in ways... more
- again... Faith, Thu Feb 10 7:53amthe meaning of faith that i adhere to not only comes from God's Word but it is confirmed in every day living. Really., who actually believes that faith means a wishy washy blind hope? When someone... more
- None of what you just posted supports your original Moraith, Thu Feb 10 8:49amclaim that faith is knowing something with confidence. You can have a strong conviction, you can firmly believe and completely trust in that with which you have faith, but you cannot , by definition, ... more
- Maybe you can't.... Faith, Thu Feb 10 9:10amOr maybe you can't quite imagine it...but I don't put my faith in anything that i am not quite sure of...and although I may not be able to prove it to you...that doesn't mean I am not convicted.
- Surety or being convicted in your faith Moraith, Thu Feb 10 9:51amisn't the same as knowledge. I'm not trying to say that you aren't sure of your faith. I'm simply stating that surety isn't the same as knowing something to be true.
- again Moriath... Faith, Thu Feb 10 10:00amI am sure of my knowledge about God, for example. I can't prove He exists to you--But I have no doubts. I believe what is revealed in the Scriptures--which is chock-full-of knowledge. I can't prove... more
- We're getting off topic Moraith, Thu Feb 10 10:30amI don't expect you to prove your faith to me. I'm not even asking you to do so. I merely pointed out that your original definition of faith was wrong. You've even demonstrated that your were... more
- No definition can be wrong... Poppet, Thu Feb 10 10:55am...when someone just makes up the lexicon as they go along. Convenient, innit...? =P
- It is quite convenient Moraith, Thu Feb 10 10:56amI wish I could twist my brain about in such as way as to never be wrong about anything. It would make life simpler, don't you think?
- well we will just have to agree to disagree Faith, Thu Feb 10 10:47ambecause i believe that the definition found in the dictionary is much like the one found in God's Word. Maybe we are just talking past each other.
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