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I stated that quite specifically in my last paragraph...
Tue Aug 2, 2011 9:00am
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I already covered that it isn't Zeus' opinion as to what is in the US gov'ts best interest, but it is the US gov'ts opinion as to what is in its best interest.

And frankly, that is the only point of view that matters. It doesn't matter what Zeus thinks is in the US' best interest. It doesn't matter what you think is in the US' best interst. It doesn't matter what I think is in the US' best itnerest. All we can do is bitch about it on a BBS. The ONLY point of view that matter is what the US gov't considers to be in the US' best interest.

Some may percieve that support to Israel means good reliable basing rights in a region where such are very difficult to aquire, and quite subject to the whims of unstable governments. Having a long term ally in that region has significant political value.

Some folks note that the "friction" between us and those oil producing nations that seem to be a big issue from your perspective, does NOT seem to be harming their willingness to sell us oil.

I'm not talking about God at all.

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Ok foreign aid and the pro’s and con’s. — Ζεύς, Mon Aug 1 12:15pm

Off course if possible aid shall be given to those that are in a famine and can’t feed their own people. But sadly foreign aid has also become an political influence buying exercise by paying... more
Exactly. It is a free choice.... Nations choose — Sprout, Mon Aug 1 12:24pm

which other natiosn to give aid to based on what is in their own best interests.
So for you the results bad or good don't count? (nm) — Ζεύς, Mon Aug 1 11:12pm

I am simply stating fact.. — Sprout, Tue Aug 2 5:41am

Each nation WILL apply foreign aid in the manner that best suits its own needs... I can bitch about it if I want, but it doesn't change the FACTS. The US supports gov'ts that China doesn't like.... more
Maybe so but the effect can be devastating. — Ζεύς, Wed Aug 3 1:29am

Have you got an opinion of yourself on that? Ζεύς
The effect of what? — Sprout, Wed Aug 3 5:28am

The effect of bitching on a bbs? LOL...
The stupid acts of boycoting others or worse. — Ζεύς, Wed Aug 3 5:50am

Never mind. Ζεύς
You, yourself boycotting has zero impact... — Sprout, Wed Aug 3 7:34am

A boycot ONLY has an effect is a LARGE number of people participate such that it has a REAL economic impact on the target of the boycot. It doesn't matter if a FEW people refuse to participate in... more
Not necessarily true. — wondering, Tue Aug 2 8:54am

Each nation may apply foreign aid in the manner they PERCEIVE best suits its needs, but their perceptions may well be wrong. Some people may "perceive" that to support Israel means that "God" will be ... more
I stated that quite specifically in my last paragraph... — Sprout, Tue Aug 2 9:00am
And from that I concluted that everything is fine with you — Ζεύς, Wed Aug 3 1:32am

no matter what. I hope you didn't complain about 9/11 because that too was outside your control? Who is pulling your strings Prout? Ζεύς
Your conclusion is false fool.... — Sprout, Wed Aug 3 5:28am

I do not feel that everything is "fine" with me. But I recognize that there are some things I can change, and some things I cannot. And I am intelligent enough to know the difference.
Have you ever tried and really protested? (nm) — Ζεύς, Wed Aug 3 5:52am

So what you are basically saying — wondering, Tue Aug 2 10:09am

is that what you or I or Zeus or anyone else who isn't in the business of governing, doesn't count. The only thing that matters is what governments think and do. So why should we vote or think or... more
Yes. We may DESIRE for our opinions to matter... — Sprout, Tue Aug 2 10:54am

But in terms of harsh reality, they do not. We can vote to put people in office that we HOPE will act in a manner as close to our desires as possible. But once they are in office they act as THEY... more
So you like the Vietnam slaughter and you approve of it? — Ζεύς, Wed Aug 3 1:24am

Or the slaughter in Iraq if so what did those people do wrong to you or your country. The same for Afghanistan off course. Or are you a good sheep after all that only whimper a bit but follow orders. ... more
Aparently you don't read very well.... — Sprout, Wed Aug 3 5:27am

I can express my opinions all I want.. The difference is that I am also intelligent enough to realize that those in charge don't CARE what my perception of what is best for the nation is. What are... more
Ever really protested and write letters in papers — Ζεύς, Wed Aug 3 5:56am

or letters to those that should listen? Ever done anything like it Sprout? Some people do such things are you willing and able? Here we might change peoples viewpoints aswell. Ζεύς
I do write letters. Not to the papers though... — Sprout, Wed Aug 3 7:36am

I have spent the last couple months in correspondance with some state level legislators on an administrative issue in our state. Here you might change peoples viewpoints? So, here you think you might ... more
But not in your first paragraph. — wondering, Tue Aug 2 9:34am

And in your subject line, you made it sound like you are stating fact. Perceptions are not fact.
So, I have to repeat a statement in the subject line — Sprout, Tue Aug 2 10:51am

and in each and every paragraph of a post before you will recognize it?
You repeated your false statements — wondering, Tue Aug 2 1:19pm

several times. Very recognizable.
Some concepts take more than on sentence — Sprout, Tue Aug 2 2:02pm

to develop... Even Dick and Jane childrens books develop concepts over more than one page... Start with Dr Seuss and work your way up to bigger books with fewer pictures. And eventually you will... more
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