ChristopherBlackwellGod Is Not a ChristianMon Jun 25, 2012 7:13pm70.41.146.131God Is Not a Christian
Posted: 06/ 1/11 09:25 PM ET
Desmond Tutu
Surely it is good to know that God (in the Christian tradition) created us all (not just Christians) in his image, thus investing us all with infinite worth, and that it was with all humankind that God entered into a covenant relationship, depicted in the covenant with Noah when God promised he would not destroy his creation again with water. Surely we can rejoice that the eternal word, the Logos of God, enlightens everyone -- not just Christians, but everyone who comes into the world; that what we call the Spirit of God is not a Christian preserve, for the Spirit of God existed long before there were Christians, inspiring and nurturing women and men in the ways of holiness, bringing them to fruition, bringing to fruition what was best in all. We do scant justice and honor to our God if we want, for instance, to deny that Mahatma Gandhi was a truly great soul, a holy man who walked closely with God. Our God would be too small if he was not also the God of Gandhi: if God is one, as we believe, then he is the only God of all his people, whether they acknowledge him as such or not. God does not need us to protect him. Many of us perhaps need to have our notion of God deepened and expanded. It is often said, half in jest, that God created man in his own image and man has returned the compliment, saddling God with his own narrow prejudices and exclusivity, foibles and temperamental quirks. God remains God, whether God has worshippers or not.
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If there was a God greenman, Tue Jun 26 4:38pm...he, or she, or it would certainly be above the petty concerns of human sects; either that, or God would let us know which sect was the 'right' one. The notion that one could be punished in the... more God is truly a universal God. shadow, Tue Jun 26 12:49pmAnd what He ordains is for all humanity. Christ, his son, likewise died for all humanity. Any human efforts to change that reality puts great distance between God and those who refuse His truth.
It depends on if it is true. ChristoherBlackwell, Wed Jun 27 8:05pmshadow, The problem is God is not talking and hasn't talked for a very long time,if he ever talked to humans. So all we have is what humans have said about god. I am far more amazed at your faith... more ...and the hypnotized victim rants again (nm) Clawson, Wed Jun 27 9:41am "Reality?" Truthteller, Tue Jun 26 12:52pmGot any proof of that (that doesn't involve a man-made book?)
Moreover... Clawson, Wed Jun 27 9:43am...it is a "hear say" book with many divergent authors.
...over many years... Truthteller, Wed Jun 27 10:54amand ultimately was subjected to the ultimate cut-and-paste by a bunch of MEN who alone decided what to leave in and what to take out. Some things haven't changed--just ask any publisher! LOL It is much more than that Clawson, Tue Jun 26 8:59amWhat is called "God" has no relationship to the forces that created our universe and much later created life on planet earth. It is a blind PROCESS that follows the rules of probability. There is no... more
Yep Dead is Dead to bad that many can't face that fact. Διός, Tue Jun 26 9:03pmNobody ever came back to show us otherwise. And that is how the system works nothing get lossed or gained. Ashes too ashes, dust too dust even some religions believe that. :o))... more Where did the rules of probability come from? Ken C, Tue Jun 26 11:27amMy question is similar to asking a religious person: "Who created the creator?"
The "bottom line" (accountants" term) Clawson, Wed Jun 27 9:39am...is that "nobody knows", except that it appears that in any system "it had to be that way", else the system would not exist. A deeper question that you might ask would be "why does ANY system have... more Ummmm.... Kevin, Tue Jun 26 10:37amYou: What is called "God" has no relationship to the forces that created our universe and much later created life on planet earth. Me: Can you prove this empirically? Or is this nothing more than an... more Excellent! :) Truthteller, Tue Jun 26 7:47amlots of points in there that some of us have been making for years here. Amen Desmond Tutu. Amen. (nm) Kevin, Tue Jun 26 5:54am I like this:God Is Too Big To Fit Into Just One Religion! (nm) David F Mayer, Mon Jun 25 7:19pm
Gods are too big to be owned by any one people (nm) Christopher Blackwell , Fri Jun 29 6:50pmReligion and Ethics BBS