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Clawson

The flaw in the argument about availability of doctors.

Wed Jul 4, 2012 9:41pm

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When the subject of doctor shortage in the USA is
brought up, we are told that the shortage is caused
by other occupations having higher salaries.

Moreover, the only suggested solution is to attract
more medical students and doctors from other countries.

If those "other occupations" actually exist, the number
of such high paying jobs will certainly be limited.

We are being sold "a bill of goods" when we are told
that in a country with over 300 million people there
are not enough talented students for medical schools
plus schools training those mythical "other occupations".

The flaw in the argument comes down to one single
factor - MONEY. The politicians telling us these lies
don't want to provide SCHOLARSHIPS to train doctors.
Why not? Because that would require shifting tax
dollars away from Dominionist Empire wars and earmarks.

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• The military trains doctors. — kw, Fri Jul 6 4:25am
  ...and uses the wounded to gain experience. Such a dichotomy; to put men in harms way and then practice medicine on them.
• • A try out untested drugs on them — ChristopherBlackwell, Fri Jul 6 7:06pm
    KW, They forget to mention that you are a government lab rat in the military.
• I have never heard anyone say that the — Sprout, Thu Jul 5 5:46am
  reason we are facing a shortage of doctors is that being a doctor doesn't pay enough in the US. I think that the ultimate problem is that there are relatively few indivdiuals in society who are... more
• • Sad, but true (nm) — greenman, Thu Jul 5 4:47pm
  • An insider's view — History, Thu Jul 5 11:11am
    Yes. That's pretty much it. Most decisions sane people make are determined by the benefit-cost ration. The benefit from one's choice need at least be equal to the cost one pays, and preferentially... more
  • • Pharmacist becomes doctor — ChristopherBlackwell, Thu Jul 5 7:39pm
      When K-Mart came to town they bought out a local pharmacist. He went back to medical school and became an MD. When Walmart came to town they could not find a Pharmacist that could run a pharmacy, so... more
    • Salaried government employees don't worry about liability — Clawson, Thu Jul 5 3:04pm
      ...and reimbursement. The answer is simple. Government paid tuition grants and government paid jobs for doctors. Any doctor following the traditional route is OK, too, but that route doesn't have... more
    • • Been there, done that. — History, Thu Jul 5 7:35pm
        I was a military physician for my first four years. And I have no regrets at all in doing so in return for a scholarship that covered the cost of medical school. However, I learned this system of... more
      • • Military medicine certainly has its strengths and — Sprout, Fri Jul 6 12:15pm
          weaknesses. I saw good docs and lousy docs when I was in the service.. But I wonder, down the road, if we continue to move towards a gov't run and funded medical system, how many people who cheer... more
  • I agree. — SES, Thu Jul 5 5:55am
    I have never heard the following statement made: "I'd become a Doctor, but they just don't make enough money". lol My Daughter just graduated from Nursing School. It was four years of HARD work. I... more
  • • She will be better off ... — Mondo Fuego™ , Thu Jul 5 9:42am
      ... working a few years as a Nurse, then going back to school to get the Nurse Practitioner degree. Just my opinion, of course.
    • • That's her plan. — SES, Thu Jul 5 10:49am
        She said she'll work as an RN for a couple of years, and THEN get her Nurse Practitioner. BUT...I've heard of people who INTENDED on doing that, but then got involved in marriage and kids and a house ... more
      • • 10 years ... — Mondo Fuego™ , Thu Jul 5 1:30pm
          ... is not that long to wait. I know people who got their NP degree in their 50s and 60s.
        • • I think the challenge is that, I have to suspect the longer — Sprout, Mon Jul 9 1:03pm
            one waits the ODDS of going back for it probably drop pretty significantly... I think someone who has a good strong PLAN, and a SCHEDULE, will probably be fine... But I think figuring on going back... more
      • It should definitely help in seeking those — Sprout, Thu Jul 5 10:07am
        higher paying jobs... When her fellow graduates can only list their education on their resume, she will be able to list that she has the same education level, but also has a number of years of real... more
      • • Which is it? — Clawson, Thu Jul 5 3:06pm
          In one statement you said money was not important.
        • • You don't read very well do you. (nm) — Sprout, Fri Jul 6 5:47am
          • • In a previous post in this thread you wrote... — Clawson, Fri Jul 6 12:03pm
              "I have never heard anyone say that the reason we are facing a shortage of doctors is that being a doctor doesn't pay enough in the US."
            • • Which has absolutely NOTHING to do with — Sprout, Fri Jul 6 12:10pm
                an indivdual working to integrate some real world working experience into her educational experience timeline as a method of making herself more attractive to employers interested in filling job... more

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